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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Best OOB WW2 German tank?
alpha-1-7-0
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 10:56 AM UTC


hey all

ive been away for awhile due to various problems (and my comp dying) and am happy to finally be back in the world of model making.

Id like to get a foot in the door by doing a standard ootb armor kit, german, ww2. but which would be best? Im not fussed as to complexity, but id love to do a good quality kit to get me back into the habit, before i start doing more complex things again like dio's.

any opinions? :-)

cheers for now

Alpha
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 12:11 PM UTC
Hi Alpha-1-7-0,
Although I've yet to build any, I've heard that the latest Tamiya releases are very good quality and have good fit. These would be the Panthers, Tigers and Marders. Not sure as to what else they may have out there.
Regards,
Joe
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 01:14 PM UTC
Welcome back to crazy land Alpha :-) :-) The Tamiya StuG III Ausf G is a good OOB box You can make it into a 75mm 0r 105mm howitzer version
didiumus
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 02:26 PM UTC
Here is a suggestion: try one of the new Dragon King Tigers. You get kits that are just as good if not better than the Tamiya ones, plus individual link tracks AND PE screens for $10 less than a Tamiya kit. And they LOOK great.

Scott Gentry
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 02:53 PM UTC
hi there...
for me, a good OOTB kit would be Tristar Panzer 1 aus A (late)..
i just finieshed panting the kit.... it's nice kit and easy to build..good fit...
i spend only a week to finish it....

mikeli125
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 09:17 PM UTC
most tamiya kits are easy to work on the merkava is a really nice fit and a fair price too!
just watch out for the older kits as detail my be a bit lacking they still build up nice abut are starting to show thier age just dont buy the old panther by tamiya! the new pz3 and 4's are nice
alpha-1-7-0
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 02:07 AM UTC
Hey all

thanks for the input - ive got some kits still to one side, but i am a great fan of german ww2 armor (i know, i know, ......popular choice.... :-) ) and ideally i'd like to start off building again with a good ootb kit - im a big fan of tamiya anyway, but anymore views or choices are always a good idea

cheers

Alpha (Aaron)
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 03:34 AM UTC
Tamiya Panther G late version is a good one! or King Tiger Porsche Turret
Muzz
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 03:38 AM UTC
Basically all of the Tamiya WW2 armour kits are good. Hows about the Tiger 1?

They even do radio controlled model kits nowadays.

The Ardennes King Tiger would be good for a dio perhaps?

alpha-1-7-0
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 08:54 AM UTC
cheers muzz/propboy :-)

im thinking either tiger, or maybe even halftrack? maybe even sp gun, like a marder...decisions decisions... i do like the tamiya kits but im always open to trying other 'brands' - as for dios. well i will be getting back into those but first, a nice, quick, smooth ootb to wet my appetite, then a main course! (++)

cheers all
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 03:08 PM UTC
If you want halftracks then go with DML's Hanomags, or better Tamiya's FAMO w/c is very well-detailed even if you do it OOTB (expensive though ). If you want Tigers then you can go for either DML or Tamiya both are good builds with excellent detail. Talking about SP guns then you can safely go with the Tamiya Marders or DML Nashorn, Hummel, etc.....
Just remember, if you want good builds with good detail, just go for the new ones
rjray
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 04:02 PM UTC
For something nice and straightforward, I'd go with either a Tamiya Marder (you have two to choose from) or the Tasca PzKpfw II L "Luchs".

Randy
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 06:07 PM UTC
Go buy yourself a Tamiya JagdPanzer IV kit, then customize it into JagdPanzer IV Serie "0"!!!! That will get your blood pumping for sure!
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 06:10 PM UTC
Try one of the DML Panthers,they're good kits oob IMHO.
Pete
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2004 - 08:58 PM UTC
havent got it but heard from various people that Tamiya Stug III is nice and also DML Hanomag is a beauty to build.. i d also like some King Tiger or Panther late G . Tamiya makes them nicely
Viking
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:55 AM UTC
The latest DML Nashorn is a very good choice!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 06:21 AM UTC
As others have said, both the Tamiya Tiger and the Marder are great models. The marder is a little bit more challenging OOB because of the open fighting compartment.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 07:38 AM UTC

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Tamiya Panther G late version is a good one! or King Tiger Porsche Turret



I knew folks would have already suggested these, but they get my vote too.
I love the panthers
Well engineered, accurate, straightforward builds. Glueable rubberband tracks (no link to link and no staples/melting required.)
Loads of references and aftermarket available if the bug strikes
Simple enough paint schemes..

I might also add the Panzer IV H/J from Tamiya to the list.

I'd stay away from the DML kits since link to link is a bit off-putting at first and all their kits have them. Yes they are nice and cheaper, but that link to link is a steep learning curve.

Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 07:40 AM UTC
famos, marders, half tracks, and tigers....hmmmm the choices! were there ever any marders in combined units with tigers? theyd look great together

cheers

Alpha (Az) :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 09:43 AM UTC
I would say the Pzkpfw IV Ausf D... I have it sitting next to me, and darn did it turn out good
rjray
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 10:01 AM UTC
Another one-- if you're interested in a softskin as an alternative, the Tamiya Steyr 1500/A01 (the truck, not the command car) was thus far the most-enjoyable build I've had. The lines are nice and sleek, and the parts fit is perfect, leaving you to spend as much time as you feel like adding stowage and detail.

Randy
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 12:21 AM UTC
I recommand dragon panther D.
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