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M113A2 with 106mm recoilless
Trackjam
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 12:04 PM UTC
Does anyone out there have any photographs or drawings of a 106 mm recoilless mounted on an M113?
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 06:41 PM UTC
here is one
http://www.armouredengineer.force9.co.uk/bucket/viet106.htm

found another http://www.armouredengineer.force9.co.uk/bucket/aus106.htm

Another set
http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/m113/m113b.html
Trackjam
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2002 - 10:22 AM UTC
Jeff,
thanks, its a start.
Paul
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2002 - 11:47 PM UTC
Hi,

I don't have pictures, but access to a good source. One of my friends is a Vietnam Vet, who actually drove a track with a recky-rifle on it.

He told me these M113s had the field mods toward an ACAV, before these ACAVs started rolling off the line, and instead of the right m-60 mount, in that spot the RR was mounted. He actually made a model of it. I'll see if I can get the pictures if you like. He wasn't sure at that time whether anybody else had an M113 with the RR, his was the only one in that company/batallion.

Cheers,
Ranger74
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:22 AM UTC
Verlindan makes a conversion for the South Vietnamese M113 mounting the 106mm RR. It has the rifle, mount, ammo cannisters and a seat ounted on top of the vehicle.
stavka2000
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:48 AM UTC
Yes,

And Dragon produced a MULE with an M106 and two marines on it, you could very well use that too.

Cheers,
Sabot
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:00 AM UTC
Skybow also sells the 106mm recoilless rifle separately for about $7.50. Just a sprue in a clear bag with a green cardboard header hanging on a peg board. Comes with the ground mount too.
Trackjam
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:34 AM UTC
Thanks guys. Any photos of models will also be appreciated. The Canadian army used them for a time on M113s in the 1960s before the TOW was fielded. Therein lies my interest.
Trackjam
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 01:45 PM UTC
After much searching, a fellow modeller has sent me a Canadian Forces Technical Order (CFTO) showing the 106mm mounted on an M113. Te document is dated1974. Its quite a large file. If anyone is interested, send me your e-mail and I will forward it.
Cheers.
210cav
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 02:29 PM UTC
Paul--how detailed is the reference document? Does it show the mounting? That would be a bear to fabricate. How big is the file?
thanks
Trackjam
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 03:28 PM UTC
Col Judge
the whole document is 16 pages in lengthe and about 3 megs. However, there are only four drawings of note, which area just under 1 meg in size in total. It does not appear to be a very complicated conversion with the exception of the internal ammunition stowage. Probably a lot less work than my TUA.
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