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Jagdpanzer L/70 is better? Tamiya/Italeri?
Spades
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Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 03:18 PM UTC
Topic title says it all...which kit of the Jagdpanzer L/70 is better ??? Planning on buying one, just dont know which, thanks in advance for your help.
SS-74
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Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:01 PM UTC
If you are lucky, DML ones is the best of the pz IV L/70
shonen_red
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Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:28 PM UTC
If you're more into fit and ease, go for Tamiya. Yes, it may not be accurate OOB but saves you time and effort in building it then add the scratchbuilt parts.
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:31 AM UTC
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Like Dave says, the DML one is superior if you are lucky and can find it. Between the old Tamiya and Italeri one, Italeri's is much better.Topic title says it all...which kit of the Jagdpanzer L/70 is better ??? Planning on buying one, just dont know which, thanks in advance for your help.
Aitch
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:54 AM UTC
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I'll second that Rob - I've got a Tamiya which I'm going to dress up with the Cavalier Zimmeritt sheet as soon as I can get proof positive that the L70 had Zim.
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Between the old Tamiya and Italeri one, Italeri's is much better.
I'll second that Rob - I've got a Tamiya which I'm going to dress up with the Cavalier Zimmeritt sheet as soon as I can get proof positive that the L70 had Zim.
Spades
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:25 PM UTC
Thanks guys for your help, will try for the DML, but, if not, then will go for the Italeri. Thanks again.
SS-74
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:45 PM UTC
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Hi Aitch,
If I remember correctly, L/70 should not be with zimmerit.
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Quoted TextBetween the old Tamiya and Italeri one, Italeri's is much better.
I'll second that Rob - I've got a Tamiya which I'm going to dress up with the Cavalier Zimmeritt sheet as soon as I can get proof positive that the L70 had Zim.
Hi Aitch,
If I remember correctly, L/70 should not be with zimmerit.
ShermiesRule
Joined: December 11, 2003
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2004 - 01:40 PM UTC
The few pics in The Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WWII show no zim on the L70.
Aitch
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Posted: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:39 AM UTC
Whoops - looks like you might be right there then... 
Oh well I'll build the Tamiya as a fun project and find an L/48 kit to add the zim to.
Thanks for the advice, the Cavalier sheet specifically mentions the L/70 and says it's for the Italeri kit no.266.
Oh well I'll build the Tamiya as a fun project and find an L/48 kit to add the zim to.
Thanks for the advice, the Cavalier sheet specifically mentions the L/70 and says it's for the Italeri kit no.266.
Sturm
Joined: May 19, 2004
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:08 AM UTC
Hi all;
I have photographic proof of jagdpanzer IV/L70 with zimmerit.
If anyone want it le me know.
Greetz all
I have photographic proof of jagdpanzer IV/L70 with zimmerit.
If anyone want it le me know.
Greetz all
m60a3
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:53 AM UTC
This looks like one:
I'd like to see clearer, more detailed ones myself.
I'd like to see clearer, more detailed ones myself.
Aitch
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:08 AM UTC
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Hi all;
I have photographic proof of jagdpanzer IV/L70 with zimmerit.
If anyone want it le me know.
Greetz all
Sturm, If you can read the hull number - if there is one - I'd like to know it please.
Also is the colour scheme plain (like sand or primer) or is it Ambush scheme..?
Thanks, and also welcome to the site...
Aitch
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:10 AM UTC
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This looks like one:
I'd like to see clearer, more detailed ones myself.
It certainly looks like it to me. Thanks for posting
Sturm
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:36 PM UTC
Hi all;
The pic above is NOT an L/70 but an L/48. Most of these had zimmerit.
Greetz
The pic above is NOT an L/70 but an L/48. Most of these had zimmerit.
Greetz
Aitch
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:04 AM UTC
I searched the net using Yahoo and Google - using the phrase 'jagdpanzer IV/L70 with zimmerit' There's a lot of folk out there who think - like I did - that at least some L/70 had zim.
Either way I'm still building my Tamiya as I've now got the replacement tracks and gun barrel I was after. Does anyone know anything specific that could be corrected on the Tamiya that I can tackle please
Either way I'm still building my Tamiya as I've now got the replacement tracks and gun barrel I was after. Does anyone know anything specific that could be corrected on the Tamiya that I can tackle please
Hawkeye
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2004 - 05:10 AM UTC
I just found this and it sure looks like an L/70 to me, but no sign of Zim
http://www.kamenice.wz.cz/soubory_valka/valka_02.jpg
Regards from the Swamp
Hawkeye
http://www.kamenice.wz.cz/soubory_valka/valka_02.jpg
Regards from the Swamp
Hawkeye
jw73
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:11 AM UTC
I saw also jagdpanzers L/70 with zimmerit.
jw73
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:31 AM UTC
I found this in my collection of exhibit photos. Look 
Aitch
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:51 AM UTC
That's an excellent model 
I think it's safe to say that a very few of the new L/70 Jagdpanzers were coated with zimmeritt in the period between August and September 1944 - when the order to stop using zimmeritt was issued.
I'm going to take a chance and go with the zim - just this once... but as a well battered early 1945 - the Cavalier zim is resin and should flake pretty well.
Thanks to everyone who helped with info and comments, and thanks to JJ too.
I think it's safe to say that a very few of the new L/70 Jagdpanzers were coated with zimmeritt in the period between August and September 1944 - when the order to stop using zimmeritt was issued.
I'm going to take a chance and go with the zim - just this once... but as a well battered early 1945 - the Cavalier zim is resin and should flake pretty well.
Thanks to everyone who helped with info and comments, and thanks to JJ too.
bhrjr1
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2011 - 09:28 AM UTC
There are many photos of the l/70 Jagdpanzer out there. I do not know how to send a photo to you; but the Bundesarchiv on Wikimedia Commons has some photos, give it a try.
Bruce
Bruce
nathan211
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2011 - 02:10 AM UTC
I see I'm a little late on this one, but I have a panzerwrecks book that shows defenitley shows a couple jadgpanzer L/70's with zimmerit.
nathan211
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2011 - 02:21 AM UTC
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I see I'm a little late on this one, but I have a panzerwrecks book that shows defenitley shows a couple jadgpanzer L/70's with zimmerit.
I scanned this picture of one from:
Panzerwrecks 12
Lee Archer and William Auerbach
dario8459
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 12:37 AM UTC
Hi all
I'm a new member
L/70 had zimmerit but only August 1944 production as for Tamiya 35088 or Dragon 6589 (single exhaust horizontal, four return rollers)
ciao from italy
I'm a new member
L/70 had zimmerit but only August 1944 production as for Tamiya 35088 or Dragon 6589 (single exhaust horizontal, four return rollers)
ciao from italy
dario8459
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 12:42 AM UTC
and the photo is surely of an August '44 production (no all steel wheels on first and second row, but all with rubber)
dario8459
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 12:47 AM UTC
and exhaust as for panzer iv F, G, H (horizontal)
I saw the other photos of that jagdpanzer marked 1032 on Panzerwrecks 12.
Someone knows what kind of Jagdpanzer IV is Italeri 266?
I saw the other photos of that jagdpanzer marked 1032 on Panzerwrecks 12.
Someone knows what kind of Jagdpanzer IV is Italeri 266?
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