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MATTTOMLIN
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Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 04:27 PM UTC
hey all, i was wondering, all those crissed crossed obstacles that were used on normandy to stop the lcd boats from coming in, were they ever used inland , to stop tanks, and just used as obstacles agains the us. sorry i can remember the name of them.

matt
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Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 04:38 PM UTC
Here's a link to the various types of tank obstacles used by the Germans:

http://www.missing-lynx.com/library/german/pztrap_dmourtizsen.html
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Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 10:21 PM UTC
I think they were in fact intended to stop tanks and not the boats.
You are talking about those steel girders welded together right?
MATTTOMLIN
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Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 10:34 PM UTC
yeah i am, but infact they were actualy used to stop the boats becuase at the ends they had little bits of them cut out to tear the bottoms of the boats as they were coming in.

all i want to know is did the germans use these to stop tanks in land aswell as on the beach.

matt
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Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 10:54 PM UTC
Hope this might help a cross vieuw of Omaha as it was

if this is not working sorry look at my profile pictures.
It has been a while since i have been active hier
RIMA
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Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 11:00 PM UTC
Element C is what you wanted to know about.
The second one ( Pieux ) is a woud stik with a mine on the end.
The tird one ( Rompes ) if i am right as the same mening tha the 1rst one.
the fourth is the one everybody knows and was the meaning to stop tanks.
Good luck with yours diio
MATTTOMLIN
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 12:29 AM UTC
hey , thnx all for your help, as it has helped , however my question still lies unaswered.

were these tank traps used inland, in the country, in the towns.........e.t.c......

matt
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 12:35 AM UTC

Quoted Text

hey , thnx all for your help, as it has helped , however my question still lies unaswered.

were these tank traps used inland, in the country, in the towns.........e.t.c......

matt



Playing some WWII games such as Medal of Honor and Battlefield 1942, some maps do have those Herrisons type barricades. I think they were still used inland (because the game does). I could be wrong...
RIMA
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 12:53 AM UTC
If i am correcte those obstical anti tank object were used by german also during the disateress operation in Dieppe not only the Chruchill tanks were stuk on the beach because of the ( flat and ronded ) stoned beache but also becausre the city was defended with steal ( ferro ) concrete blok the few tank who got out the beach couldn t go ferther .
The Seagfeld line by the belgian border was also an exampel of those anti tanks obstacel called if i am correct there shark tooth
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 01:08 AM UTC
The ML article is very good and supports the use of tank obsticles the criss cross X type (Czech hedgehogs) in land.

As in the image posted by RIMA, the element C and Rampes and Pieux were used only at the beach.
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:04 AM UTC
I saw a pic where the hessian was used to guard the rampway to a bridge. They were used to prevent easy access to th bridge. The obstacles were entangled in loads of barbed wire in front of a wall of sandbags with MG positions.
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