Hi all,
A friend of mine asked me for some help and now I'm going to ask all of you for help too
He wants to model a vehicle (spacecraft) that has crashlanded and is now partially submerged in ice.
I remember seeing a dio of a tank that broke through the ice on a frozen river or lake or something. I can't seem to find it though. And I'm not sure that there was a description on how the modeler did the ice anyway.

So....do any of you good people out there have any suggestions on how to go about doing this?
Really appreciate any ideas you may have.
Thanks,
Craig

Ola Craig

I think you mean this model

Tiger I Ausf E Early Version

It`s from MIG
If I remember it correctly he made the Ice out of Parafine or Candlewax (one of the two) I believe he made an article about it but that one I haven`t found yet.

MONGO- I recall the dio you described, think it was a Panther falling through a bridge somewhere in Russia... If you can't find it here I'm sure I have it at home in an issue of FSM- can get the iss # tomorrow at the earliest. However, I do recall that the modeller used clear Parrafin wax ( Candle wax, very cheap at the craft store, also used for sealing preserves), just melt over a double boiler, pour out on a flat sheet, then carve out the cracked area. Let me know if you still need that iss#. HTH

I don't remember who did the TIger dio, I do remember Envar did a small light Russian tank coming out of a frozen river. I believe he used parfin also. You may want to try to contact him via PM if you don't get what you need in this thread.

I knew I could count on you guys to help me out.
You're the best!
Many thanks for the information. I'll pass a link to this thread to my friend.
Craig
PS: Man, that is a great looking effect in that diorama
Dare I say...it looks "cool"

you should try roadkill's site, I believe ther's an artikel on how to make is somwhere in there

http://users.pandora.be/ronny.noben/website/intro.htm

try it there
good luck

Thanks janwillem for pointing to my site

You can find a ICE article in the TIPS section (article by Charles Reading)

If Im not mistaken, Migs tiger and ice was made by molding clear epoxy with white in it, and cutting it up for the ice blocks. It was the panther and ice that had the parafin method. I think it was Charles reading who made it!

I took high solids gloss medium and put it on a scrap of Teflon sheet. Then, I took a blade and made a series of parallel slices. When it dried and I peeled it off I had perfect icicles that were flexible enough to attach to a surface other than a straight line.

Selahead

The Tiger I dio from MIG was made of clear poliester resin with white Tamiya acrilic for the ice, not parafin. The spanish magazine Euromodelismo (number 120 july 2002) published a complet article of this great diorama. More information, please, by e-mail.

Hey guys,
Thanks for continuing to feed me good tips
Sealhead..I really like that idea for the icicles. Going to have to keep that one in the back of my head for future possible use. Many thanks to you for it .
I'll be seeing my buddy on the 4th and we'll go over what you folks have passed along.
Knowing just what he is trying to achive, I'm thinking that the wax might just do the trick. And to keep the submerged part of the vehicle sort of visible, I'm thinking that a thin layer of the wax on top of a sheet of clear (styrene or whatever works best) may work out.
I'll try to keep you all updated when he starts this project.
Thanks again,
Craig