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warthog
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 12:31 PM UTC
Guys,

I just painted the walls for my stonewall house dio and I'm not sure if I got the colors correct or if I need to change it....any input will be very much appreciated....

Thanks





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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 12:39 PM UTC
Hey Warthog.....

Looks pretty darn nice to me, I think once its on a base with other ground clutter it will fit right in nicely.

Not sure what you were trying to replicate....but I would say that weathing on a house or stone wall like that would be fairly subjective. If I had to nit pick on thing, I would say the color of the roof.....but I am not sure what material it is you are trying to replicate...so me it looks like a bamboo roof or something...actually on second look, it looks like one of those Terra Cota styles roofs.....in one pic it looks more brown...but in the others its more red...so its hard to tell.

Looks good though...I have a couple of Verlinden buildings I would like to build....this gives me some motivation.
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 12:53 PM UTC
viper29_ca: The changing of roof color is because of the lighting during the time I took a picture. The roof I'm replicating is the terra cotta s-tile or Spanish Mission style...below is a better representation...



I hope I reach the point that this dio would be on a base...thanks for the comment
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:02 PM UTC
Warthog,

I think that what you have so far is OUTSTANDING!! I love everything about it and can't wait to see the finished dio.
warthog
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:03 PM UTC
viper29_ca: Forgot to mention, everything in the picture was scratchbuilt...verlinden products are not that abundant here in the Philippines (I personnaly haven't seen any...or I'm just not looking hard enough.. )
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:04 PM UTC
Nice job.
The doors are great, I like them a lot. The variation of color is a nice touch. The edges and corners are sometimes forgotten- you didn't, good job.

In the photos the walls look a bit shiny, but I know that the photos can do that. You make the final call on that. If they are shiny a quick dusting with dust pastels will fix that up.
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:05 PM UTC
It's looking really good Warthog. One thing I like about the stone wall is that the stones are...well...stone shaped. Something I'm guilty of when carving out a stone wall (or any stone-ish structure for that matter) is that the individuals stones look more like a jigsaw puzzle as opposed to naturally-shaped stones. Also, on the broken part of the wall it looks like you carried the broken stones over from the face up on to the top. I like the gate, too. I don't know if you built that yourself (I think you did), but the hardware makes it look realistic and seems to be in scale. All in all I think those are nice touches and great work.

I can't wait to see all of this stuff on it's base with the entire scene layed out in front of me. I'm pretty sure it'll be a looker!
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:11 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Warthog,

I think that what you have so far is OUTSTANDING!! I love everything about it and can't wait to see the finished dio.



I am totaly in agreement with this comment. What a fantastic job you have done.
warthog
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:24 PM UTC
I still have to coat them with Krylon Matt finish....but before I do, I probable have to do some more touch-ups including whatever inputs I get from this post...hmmm pastel...I like the idea...I'll try that.....I attached another pic showing the inside of the house....


Its very clean coz my wife always cleans it (joke...I plan to put other things in there before I damage/weather the inside)...

PS

The object at the background...is not a windmill its an electric fan.....just noticed now...
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:52 PM UTC
Thanks guys for the comments...if you are interested the supposedly "stone" surrounding the gate is actually from a wood coffee stirer, the door is movable (except from the one lying on the floor... it was broken during the painting process. For those who really like the door here is a close-up view (the hinge was also scratchbuild)



Gee..., I myself is still not sure when I will finish the dio....currently I'm making a two-wheeled cart that I could include in the dio. Its taking me so long to finish because I scratchbuild everything that comes to mind...
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:05 PM UTC
BUILDING STONE MY SELF and having a stone house i have to admit that u have done a great job, in carving and colouring the stone wall. i could give u some advice on the joining seams between stone. This is a point that a cement mix appears and is exposed to the sun and rain. thus the colour of it is not getting darker as we would like to be (for shadowing purposes and washes and all this) but is constantly fading towards a whitish light grey . The finish parts on the broken areas are gret represented. but once again the stone walls being exposed to all weather phenomena are surface affected and discoloured towards lighter and faded colours than bright and intense ones. so the use of pastels could really help to represent this effect and especially if u are implying that the wall has been there for some decades . Your door construction is very nice and also your roof structure and colouring is nice .
I would be thankfull if i could have some info on the roof tiles u used. they re the same style that we use in some old village houses , though here they used to call them French Tiles .

Bravo

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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:12 PM UTC
It loks PERFECTLY fine to me keep it going!
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:24 PM UTC
It looks great to me. I make all my own buildings, it really makes the model more individual, and you can match the building to the dio.
When you add the building to a base remember that foliage very soon starts to infest the outside, climbing up the mortar channels first. Moss on the roof as well.
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:28 PM UTC
Whoa!!! It's coming out great dude!
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:35 PM UTC
another great job after the roof.stone walls and door looks very good.especially the coloring of the stones is so nice .congrats warthog
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:40 PM UTC
Major_Goose: Some of the dark areas in the joints are colored dark green, I was hoping I could replicate moss colored areas....but you are right some areas exposed to the sun should have faded...I'll work on it and use pastel as you and Slodder suggested ....

The roof tile is terra-cotta style (others call it Spanish Mission or S-Tile), I made a research on what Mediterranean countries such as Italy and Spain...hmm... I think Greece is also included (please correct me if I am wrong) use for roofing.

I sumitted a document to Armorama on how I made the terra-cotta roof tile ....just not sure if Slodder already finished reviewing/editing it. If ever it will be posted I hope it could be of help to you....
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:54 PM UTC
Well, if this is your first scratch-build, it makes me feel quite desperate... I've never scratch-build a house, but I definitely want to do it. But when I see your work I only can think 'I'll never build something fantastic like that...'. But I'll try anyway, who knows
So two thumbs up, amazing work ! ! ! ! !
I especially like the colouring and the shapes of the masonry : very realistic. Also the door and the roof are amazingly well represented.

Good job!
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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:36 PM UTC
[quote]Well, if this is your first scratch-build, it makes me feel quite desperate... I've never scratch-build a house, but I definitely want to do it. But when I see your work I only can think 'I'll never build something fantastic like that...'. But I'll try anyway, who knows
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Florre: You are right, one will never know...I myself did not know I could start building a dio...my suggestion is don't say "I'll try it" but rather say "I'll do it"

Those guys in ARMORAMA (I would like to mention them all if possible) is responsible why my scratchbuilt house turned up like what you are looking at now....they all gave very very very helpful tips, information, comments etc. (at a loss for adjectives)

I'm no expert in building dioramas, but as a form of payback, I hope I could also give you or others some tips, ideas or other info (related to how I did the scratchbuilding) tthat could help you in making your diorama....If you have specific questions regarding what I scratchbuilt then just PM me or post it here....

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Posted: Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:39 PM UTC
WOW, thats awsume Warthog, the stone looks like...stone excellent paint job, and its hard to believe you made that yourself, GREAT job, cheers
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 01:06 AM UTC
Good point you got ther Phantom_Major...thanks. In reality, I did not plan for that door to be knocked off its hinges....but during the process of painting it just broke. I'll take implement your suggestion. Thanks again
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 02:35 AM UTC
Very good job. Keep going.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 02:52 AM UTC
Looking great Warthog. Lots of well executed methods have come together to make the basis of a lovely little dio. So far, I wouldnt even have a nit-pick .... I like it all. Im glad you are still scratching little things to go with it. this is what will make it come alive. Your furniture looks really good, the wheelbarrow will be suitable, but there lots of other little bits and pieces that can be added also. Buckets, barrels, clothes line, some tools, etc ... all can be easily scratched. Its these little details that take a basic dio and make it an outstanding dio.

Of the top of my head ... it is quite usual where you see houses with these tiles, to have all walls tiled the same ...like a triangle on top. It kept rain from getting in between the stones and breaking down the wall. It could be a nice addition to your wall if you were interested!!

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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 03:02 AM UTC
Warthog,

Looks great. My only comment is this... You have great stone shapes on the faces of the walls and the gate border looks great too. The only weakness is on the inside plane where the gate would be attached. It's perfectly smooth! Should the stacked stone construction carry over to the inside plane of the gateway?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 03:26 AM UTC
Warthog- Congratulations, sir, you have done an outstanding job here. The stone looks fantastic! The colors and detail are wonderful. Great work!
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