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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 06:13 PM UTC
Nearly at the finishing stages of my 1:8 Panther Ausf A and I thought I would try and get the excellent finish on the exhausts that Rustall gives.

To see if this is available in the UK or if not, will they ship, I have e-mailed Rustall ([email protected]) three times over a two month period without receiving any reply.

Disapointing and unusual as I get a lot of modelling items from the US (R&JProducts springs to mind) and until now the quality of the service has been outstanding!

Be grateful if anyone can advise anywhere else I can get it from.

Many thanks.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:00 PM UTC
My local hobby shop carries it, their Trackpins. Also discount models here look at this
http://www.discountmodels.com/
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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:32 PM UTC
I second SgtReef's suggestion. Mark at Michigan Discount Models provides the best service of any business that I have ever dealt with (not just hobby stuff either). He truly cares about his customers and goes out of his way to make sure that you get what you want as fast as possible. Besides that, he has great prices. The only place in America that has cheaper prices (and not by much) is http://www.greatmodels.com, but their service sucks and they are very slow.

Jeff,
You are lucky to have someone like Mark close-by. Are you in the model club with him?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:42 PM UTC
Well I live In Ok. So not to close. I guess I should put that in Bio and he is good real good on service and all.

And yes Great models service sucks only If they have it right in front of them,but if you have to wait,well lets say your plastic would rust before you got it
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 05:11 AM UTC
Thanks Jeff and Adam.

Appreciate your kindness. I have sent an e-mail to Discount Models asking if they export to the UK.

Many thanks again.

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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 03:35 PM UTC
there may be some restrictions on shipping the product. some paints,thinners, and even CA accelerators are considered hazardous materials and can't be shipped with usps. i think rustall may fall into this category. you may be able to send it ocean freight but the time frame...
i've been fighting this problem for years. i live on an island in the pacific and have a devil of a time getting finishing supplies. i used to buy bulk once or twice a year on trips to japan and bring everything home in my luggage.
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 08:57 PM UTC

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there may be some restrictions on shipping the product. some paints,thinners, and even CA accelerators are considered hazardous materials and can't be shipped with usps. i think rustall may fall into this category. you may be able to send it ocean freight but the time frame...
i've been fighting this problem for years. i live on an island in the pacific and have a devil of a time getting finishing supplies. i used to buy bulk once or twice a year on trips to japan and bring everything home in my luggage.



Paint thinners in air plane is a Big NO NO. Especially today might get you pulled off their kind of lucky their guy
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 09:18 PM UTC
Thanks for your kind advice on the problems of shipping (by air). Even difficult before the 11 September outrage. I have checked this out as best I can and I am told Rustall it is non-hazardous. Lets hope so.

I do understand the problems if you are not located in mainland USA. We have the same difficulties here in the UK. I have in the past ordered from Japan (Rainbow 10) and have had all sorts of items supplied without any problem. I do not of course know the hazard classification (if any) that applied to these items. As a by, their prices and service are very good.

Many thanks again.

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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 09:29 PM UTC
Peter:

I got a similar product called Instant Rust a couple of years ago from E.D. Models here in the UK. It consists of Instant Iron base coat which is painted on the model (it recomends two coats), which is then followed by the oxydation solution. It's made by Modern Options Inc.
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:07 PM UTC

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Peter:

I got a similar product called Instant Rust a couple of years ago from E.D. Models here in the UK. It consists of Instant Iron base coat which is painted on the model (it recomends two coats), which is then followed by the oxydation solution. It's made by Modern Options Inc.


This is good stuff never have used it yet but have a few laying around.
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:17 PM UTC

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Peter:

I got a similar product called Instant Rust a couple of years ago from E.D. Models here in the UK. It consists of Instant Iron base coat which is painted on the model (it recomends two coats), which is then followed by the oxydation solution. It's made by Modern Options Inc.



I use Instant Rust myself. It works great. And it's real rust.
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Posted: Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:18 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

there may be some restrictions on shipping the product. some paints,thinners, and even CA accelerators are considered hazardous materials and can't be shipped with usps. i think rustall may fall into this category. you may be able to send it ocean freight but the time frame...
i've been fighting this problem for years. i live on an island in the pacific and have a devil of a time getting finishing supplies. i used to buy bulk once or twice a year on trips to japan and bring everything home in my luggage.



Paint thinners in air plane is a Big NO NO. Especially today might get you pulled off their kind of lucky their guy



i should clarify, no thinners and no aerosols. that would be dangerous and irresponsible. just bottled paints.
i buy mild thinners from an art supply house.
trackpins
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Posted: Friday, July 19, 2002 - 05:16 PM UTC
Thanks for the on-going interest and advice.

The final word is Rustall is non-hazardous and permitted for air carriage I am now told. Mine leaves the US on Monday. Worth talking about I believe though. Air travel is now difficult enough without ignorance or stupidity making life even more dangerous.


I will try what you suggest Geoff. At 1:8 scale tanks need a lot of rust!

Many thanks all.

Trackpins (Peter)
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Posted: Friday, July 19, 2002 - 05:18 PM UTC
As a side issue I see I made Corporal.

Last time that happened was in 1968!

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GeneralFailure
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Posted: Friday, July 19, 2002 - 06:49 PM UTC
Peter,
When all else fails to obtain your rustall, there's always an excellent alternative :
Make "rust" by scraping pastel chalk artist material (quite cheap at artist shops) with a sharp knife. You need orange and reddish brown. The end result should be a fine powder.
You then paint the exhaust with oil paint (rust or brown) and apply the pastel powders to it while the paint is still wet. The result is spectacular.
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