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gluing plaster?

godfather

Joined: June 26, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 07:06 PM UTC
What should I use to glue pieces of plaster from verlinden etc diorama sets?

shonen_red

Joined: February 20, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 11:57 PM UTC
Hmm... you can use regular white glue or better yet, use a super glue.

Marty

Joined: June 16, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 11:59 PM UTC
White glue or 5-minute epoxy is what I use.

Graywolf



Joined: December 01, 2001
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Posted: Monday, May 31, 2004 - 12:07 AM UTC
i think best is fast hardening epoxy but you can also have good result with PVA(white glue). dont try Cyanoacylate it will not help 


KellyZak

Joined: August 19, 2003
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Posted: Monday, May 31, 2004 - 02:05 AM UTC
Graywolf is right, I've tried using Zap, Krazy, and other cy-types of glues. The plaster just seems to absorb the glue. I either use 5 minute epoxy, and have recently tried Hot Glue. The only problem with that is that you have to be insanely fast while assembling, like with in a couple of seconds! I've heard that Gorilla Glue does wonders and you get an excellent, hard bond. It can be found in the wood working sections of your local home reno centres.

Art

Joined: March 20, 2004
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Posted: Monday, May 31, 2004 - 02:09 AM UTC
Try putting them together with Spackle (I don't know what it might be called up there-it's ready to use plaster patch). That way even if some of it bleeds out the edges, you can feather it in and it still looks like plaster, and the excess cleans off with water. Also, a lot more control than with glues (you can spread it nice and even with a pallet knife, just like a real plastering job only in miniature).
Art
Art

FiveOduece

Joined: March 05, 2004
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Posted: Monday, May 31, 2004 - 08:05 AM UTC
You may also want to consider a product by Loctite called Power Grab. You can buy it in 4fl oz squeeze bottles(118ml) or in the caulk gun size for large projects. This stuff is designed to work on brick, concrete, tile, wood, plaster, ceramic.....the list goes on... It is paintable. IO bought it at the local home improvemnet store

warthog

Joined: July 29, 2002
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Posted: Monday, May 31, 2004 - 05:02 PM UTC
I agree with Art, use spackle or any wall putty...they worked fine for me. I sometimes add PVA or white glue with the spackle/wall putty to make it more sturdy...

Sealhead

Joined: May 18, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 09:21 AM UTC
Anybody ever try hot melt glue?
Sealhead?
Sealhead?

Posted: Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 01:22 PM UTC
KFmagee recommended to me a product called FABRI--TAC. It can be found at any Wal-Mart or craft store It really worked well and dries clear.

kbm

Joined: June 16, 2003
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2004 - 02:20 AM UTC
I just finished assembling the plaster portions of a Verlinden building. I used a glue that I found at Michaels: Alene's (not sure if that is the spelling) Tacky Glue. It is in the glue section in a coppery/brown bottle. It is a white glue that is, well, more tacky than say Elmers. It set fast enough that I did not have be worried about clamping the parts together, but I still had enough time to work with the building sections to make certain they were aligned.
Keith
Keith

1stsgt

Joined: January 26, 2003
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2004 - 08:53 AM UTC
I use a product called liquid nails, it is easy to work with and is paintable


Hollowpoint

Joined: January 24, 2002
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2004 - 03:42 PM UTC
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I just finished assembling the plaster portions of a Verlinden building. I used a glue that I found at Michaels: Alene's (not sure if that is the spelling) Tacky Glue. It is in the glue section in a coppery/brown bottle. It is a white glue that is, well, more tacky than say Elmers. It set fast enough that I did not have be worried about clamping the parts together, but I still had enough time to work with the building sections to make certain they were aligned.
Keith
Count my vote for Alenes Tacky Glue. It's like Elmers with an atitude.

I use it on anything porous -- plaster, styrofoam, wood, vegetation, static grass ... lots of stuff. In a pinch, you can use it to glue clear parts because it dries clear.

KFMagee

Joined: January 08, 2002
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:46 PM UTC
Fabritac is THE glue for anything plaster... here's why:
- easily found at any arts & crafts store
- waterproof, so you washes won't weaken the joints
- comes out of the squeeze bottle with the consistancy of peanut-butter so you can position things and "let go to observe" without everything falling apart!
- good working time - about 15 minutes, so you can re-position if needed.
- dries clear as can be, strong as rock, and easily painted.
- fairly cheap - 4 Oz bottle (lots of glue!) is around $7 US
- cleans up just by rubbing your hands together for a few seconds.. it balls up and comes right off your hands!
Do a "google search" for "BEACONS"+ "FABRITAC" and you will find several sources online. Here is there website page with a listing of dealers and their toll-free number:
http://www.beacon1.com/craftlocations.htm
- easily found at any arts & crafts store
- waterproof, so you washes won't weaken the joints
- comes out of the squeeze bottle with the consistancy of peanut-butter so you can position things and "let go to observe" without everything falling apart!
- good working time - about 15 minutes, so you can re-position if needed.
- dries clear as can be, strong as rock, and easily painted.
- fairly cheap - 4 Oz bottle (lots of glue!) is around $7 US
- cleans up just by rubbing your hands together for a few seconds.. it balls up and comes right off your hands!
Do a "google search" for "BEACONS"+ "FABRITAC" and you will find several sources online. Here is there website page with a listing of dealers and their toll-free number:
http://www.beacon1.com/craftlocations.htm
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