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jackhammer81
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 02:25 AM UTC
Hi everyone, I thought I would post a couple pics of the new dio I am working on. It's not much to see so far I just got the celluclay down. But thought I would get feedback all the same. I was having trouble with the reference pic to dio base sizes so i had to compact it a bit.. And before I hear about the bridge not being level its just sitting there at the moment to show more detail Well here are the pics. Let me know what you think. Cheers Kevin


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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 02:29 AM UTC
An impressive start Kevin. Your structure building skills are simply amazing! I look forward to seeing the progression of this one.

Keith
jackhammer81
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 03:12 AM UTC
Thanks for the kind words Keith. I really enjoy doing the wood working. I wished my base could have been bigger then I could have made a support piling as well.
I am doing 2 of the buildings from my reference photo. So as soon as this celluclay sets up I start building buildings again :-) Oh I also forgot to mention that I will be using a tamiya Sdkfz250/3. a tamiya panzer3L, and a DML kettenkrad on this. Not sure which figures yet though. Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 03:28 AM UTC
You definitely have a knack for wood working.

What are your plans for the waters edge - the side next to the 'base damn', the deep end?
Visible? or blocked by the dam?

Here's one I did with an 'open' view. Definitely makes a dramatc statement. Lots of considerations though - color of the water, materials used, etc etc.




I'm thinking (yea dangerous). The transition to the bridge is an opportunity for detail. I've seen a lot of covered bridges and older non paved bridges where there are boards layed down on the ground to act as 'transition' from the soft ground to the raised bridge surface. The point at bridges edge is a prime spot for 'pot holes'. Again - all depends on your plan, just thinking out loud.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:06 AM UTC

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An impressive start Kevin. Your structure building skills are simply amazing! I look forward to seeing the progression of this one.

Keith



i totally agree, the bridge part that extends into the ground., blends in perfect, keep up the EXCELLENT work!!
ciao
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 08:16 AM UTC
looking excellent so far jackhammer. i cant wait to see the end product. what are you planning for the scene in this one?
jackhammer81
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 01:20 PM UTC

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What are your plans for the waters edge - the side next to the 'base damn', the deep end?
Visible? or blocked by the dam?



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I'm thinking (yea dangerous). The transition to the bridge is an opportunity for detail. I've seen a lot of covered bridges and older non paved bridges where there are boards layed down on the ground to act as 'transition' from the soft ground to the raised bridge surface. The point at bridges edge is a prime spot for 'pot holes'. Again - all depends on your plan, just thinking out loud.


Scott the original frame extends higher than the waterline, so I'll have to wait for another time to try that open ended water. Although ever since I originally saw that dio of yours I have been wanting to try that. I had been wondering about those potholes as well, but in all my searching havent found any reference photos to show how they dealt with it, would you happen to have a couple reference photos handy that you could share? It would be much appreciated.

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looking excellent so far jackhammer. i cant wait to see the end product. what are you planning for the scene in this one?


MeisseN, The basic dio is a german armored column moving thru a polish village, will be using a pzIII, sdkfz253,and a kettenkrad. They will be traveling up the river road and over the bridge. (reference pic shows the town and can be found in my gallery) Not sure what figures I will be adding.Seems like all the fig's suitable for this that I have on hand are in winter or fall gear. But I'm trying for a summer to early fall dio with this one. thanks again for the comments and questions guys. I like to get feedback it makes me think of things I hadnt thought of. Keep it coming. Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 01:56 PM UTC
Kevin,
Another wonderful diorama in the works! You used celluclay for the ground base. What material did you use under the celluclay for the rough terrain level. I was wondering what your preferred building material was? What color did you apply to the celluclay for the dirt color, at least it look like there has been something applied.... Again, it looks great so far and can not wait to see the finished diorama.

Brent
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 02:07 PM UTC
FiveOduece, under the celluclay is a bunch of ugly ugly foam work lol, I used foam board for the elevation changes up the river road.(sorta looked like stairs) The rest is old 2 inch think insulation foam not the good stuff but the kind that shoots the little foam pebbles everywhere when you cut it. Its nice and light and I had a bunch laying around. Next time I'm going to try the new foam insulation that doesnt shoot the pebbles lol. the celluclay isnt colored yet. thats just beach sand to texture it. since the photos were taken I added a little cat litter to the slopes and river bank. Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 04:06 PM UTC
I know what you mean about the foam with the beads, I use to use it for the rough forms when I would build mountains and hills on a train layout my father once had, those beads would coat everything when I would cut through it lol....Had to do a lot of vaccuming with the shop vac. :-)
jackhammer81
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:13 PM UTC
FiveOduece, I know exactly what you mean. I have those little pellets scattered all over the floor in my garage. lol Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:24 PM UTC
I like the look of the scene... keep us updated please

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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:35 PM UTC
Hello Kevin . i think that u have started the best way u could !!!! keep them coming as u improve cause thats very interesting
jackhammer81
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:42 PM UTC
FiveOduece, here is a shot at the ugly foam work underneath, sure glad its covered with the celluclay now also including another shot where you can see some of the contours better away from the bridge. Cheers Kevin


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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 08:47 PM UTC
Looking very cool Kevin, I really like the natural contours you have got in the 2nd pic in the last post.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 11:01 PM UTC
An impressive start of a excelent diorama. Can't wait to see the final
jackhammer81
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Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 01:52 AM UTC
Thanks again for the comments guys. Cheers Kevin
FiveOduece
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Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 11:20 AM UTC
Thats the stuff....I see now, how you used the foam board, that allows for a nice smooth transition when working with the elevation changes. The cat litter is the right size for small rock, I like it!

Brent
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Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 12:38 PM UTC
That bridge is awsume, grea work, keep at it, cheers!
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