Heres my latest vingette with full discription of how i made it.
The ingrediants..
The base
i used some mud from the garden and match sticks. The spitfire is from airfix.
The final touches.
The snow is a mix of bycarbonate of soda, flour and the baking powder.
The final product.
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A-Train
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 05:01 AM UTC
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 05:47 AM UTC
Sorry to sound so critical., but I'm confused here...how long has the Spit been down? The snow cover implies a least a few hours but the pilot's position doesn't suggest that. Is the pilot dead, is the red supposed to be his blood? If so, he's too upright. The canopy is sheared off too cleanly since there are at least three distinct parts to the canopy. If smoething took off the canopy like that, it would have taken off the pilot's head, at least, as well. The amount of debris on the wings would indicate a lot more damage should have happened. The prop blades look too pristine. The fence posts should show some weathering, they look like they've just been put out there.
A-Train
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 06:53 AM UTC
Oh yeah forgot about canopy. Im working on the weathering and debris i got some melted zinc that im gonna use.
Davhowell
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 07:16 AM UTC
Dont Forget to bend the prop back a bit. When these planes hit the Ground hard those Props Bend back.
Also You might wanna fix up the Antenna a bit and paint it And Yeah I Agree Needs a bit of damage to show what Happened.
Did a 109 get on his 6 And MG the Canopy? did he get hit by AA and Try to land?
Or did his Controls get hit and he was shot after hitting the ground by troops?
Looks good so far though!
Also You might wanna fix up the Antenna a bit and paint it And Yeah I Agree Needs a bit of damage to show what Happened.
Did a 109 get on his 6 And MG the Canopy? did he get hit by AA and Try to land?
Or did his Controls get hit and he was shot after hitting the ground by troops?
Looks good so far though!
A-Train
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 08:06 AM UTC
Hit by AA tried to land and was gunned down before he managed to hit the ground. If i can find the canopy it has some bullet holes in it and part of the prop is under the plane.
Davhowell
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 08:44 AM UTC
I know But if the Prop was still spinning when it hit It all of the prop would be bent back.
tankysgal1
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:22 AM UTC
The snow is great. But i would have to agree that the fence posts look like they are just placed in the ground , no weathering or anything. What was used under the snow to create the base.
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jimbrae
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:50 AM UTC
Here is an excellent place to start...
Making Dioramas #1
What you have done, (and I'm sorry I'm not going to take part in some hypothetical discussion about crashed aircraft)is the following:
1) Put an old airplane kit in a plastic box.
2) Scattered some matchsticks
3) Put some in earth in the plastic box
4) Sprinkled some baking powder..
Now I'm not going to be nasty, what I would suggest is the following:
Make a little list, What are you trying to show? What story are you trying to tell? What simple elements do you need (models, base, basework etc.). take a look around the site. Take a look at some of the Dioramas in the features section and THINK about what you want to do...Start with Danny's Diorama article, trust me, it will help a lot...Jim
Making Dioramas #1
What you have done, (and I'm sorry I'm not going to take part in some hypothetical discussion about crashed aircraft)is the following:
1) Put an old airplane kit in a plastic box.
2) Scattered some matchsticks
3) Put some in earth in the plastic box
4) Sprinkled some baking powder..
Now I'm not going to be nasty, what I would suggest is the following:
Make a little list, What are you trying to show? What story are you trying to tell? What simple elements do you need (models, base, basework etc.). take a look around the site. Take a look at some of the Dioramas in the features section and THINK about what you want to do...Start with Danny's Diorama article, trust me, it will help a lot...Jim
A-Train
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 03:32 AM UTC
my reply... ok i admit its a pointless dio but hey my funds ran dry and i got bored. My mums still angry that i bought loadsa stuff with out her knowing so i decided not to spend any money.
A-Train
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 04:06 AM UTC
Oh yeah and im only a beginner.
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 05:16 AM UTC
The snow job looks good. If you had gotten the story more in synch it would have been quite a nice scene. Hopefully you will be able to use your snow technique again on another subject.
StarTraveler
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 06:52 AM UTC
What is trying to be said here is that you need to think out your dioramas and get a plan of what you want to do and show before you get started. I am a beginner as well, but I do not use that as an excuse.
Think about what you want to show. Then get reference information about the components of your work. Then set down a plan of what you need to do. To me the first thing that glared at me was the non-damaged prop, and the fact the wings moved pretty big rocks with no damage.
With what you have to work with in the photos, you can do a pretty good dio. All you need to do is modify the aircraft to reflect the damage, weather the posts a bit, and fix the pilot. Also, that is an awful amount of blood for 1 guy. Would be almost all of his circulating volume. Also, most of the blood that would be there wouldbe in the cockpit, not running down the side.
The majority of diorama work is in the planning. You had a good idea, but did not plan it out.
Keep at it !!
Think about what you want to show. Then get reference information about the components of your work. Then set down a plan of what you need to do. To me the first thing that glared at me was the non-damaged prop, and the fact the wings moved pretty big rocks with no damage.
With what you have to work with in the photos, you can do a pretty good dio. All you need to do is modify the aircraft to reflect the damage, weather the posts a bit, and fix the pilot. Also, that is an awful amount of blood for 1 guy. Would be almost all of his circulating volume. Also, most of the blood that would be there wouldbe in the cockpit, not running down the side.
The majority of diorama work is in the planning. You had a good idea, but did not plan it out.
Keep at it !!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 07:01 AM UTC
I am going to simply add that we must keep in mind (both on the receiving side and posting side) that this forum is for members from all walks of life, all areas of the globe, all ages, all genders etc. etc.
When things are posted we must keep in mind that the person reading them may speak another language, may have different ideas of what is 'normal' and we must consider our approach in how we post.
On the receiving side we must realize that not everyone is going to agree with us or 'love our work' no matter how long you have been in this hobby.
Remember that 99.9% of the posts are done with good intentions in mind and not to get up set right away and start a flame war or something like that.
Be considerate when posting. Be open minded when reading.
Think through where the person lives and consider language and culture barriers.
This is a hobby for all to enjoy and I personally don't want to 'lose' member because of a 'bad post'
When things are posted we must keep in mind that the person reading them may speak another language, may have different ideas of what is 'normal' and we must consider our approach in how we post.
On the receiving side we must realize that not everyone is going to agree with us or 'love our work' no matter how long you have been in this hobby.
Remember that 99.9% of the posts are done with good intentions in mind and not to get up set right away and start a flame war or something like that.
Be considerate when posting. Be open minded when reading.
Think through where the person lives and consider language and culture barriers.
This is a hobby for all to enjoy and I personally don't want to 'lose' member because of a 'bad post'
A-Train
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 07:44 AM UTC
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The snow job looks good. If you had gotten the story more in synch it would have been quite a nice scene. Hopefully you will be able to use your snow technique again on another subject.
working on it already. And this time ive planned it.
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:06 PM UTC
Just a suggestion, but if you are thinking of a suitable base for a dio, take a look in some of these (very) nasty places like POUNDSTRETCHER now according to your profile, you live in Scotland you'll definitely find one where you live. What to look for is cheap picture frames dismantle them (take out the glass etc.) and you have a ready-made start for a base. Another possible source, is in the charity shops. Just close your eyes to the horrible contents of the frame (multi-colored kittens etc.) and you'll have a nice cheap base...Jim
A-Train
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Posted: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 02:57 AM UTC
Pound stretchers.... Are You Mad! I got the window frame type thing of a door for my next dio.