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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Dragon sherman firefly
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 04:57 AM UTC
Well i orded a 1/35 dragon sherman firefly from ebay.hope that when i start it some time soon i do a good job on it.as the saying goes IF YOU CARN'T BEAT THEM JOIN THEM.
gluesniffer
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 04:59 AM UTC


Hysterical !

It's a good kit . I chickened out on the indy links - bought accrurate armor

good luck with it



tazz
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Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 07:53 AM UTC
hey i just won a dragon fire fly from bay,
i got it for 18 dollars.
and the shiping was 7 dollars
so for 26 bucks not to bad.
i saved about 8 dollars because.
if i would have got it from other hobbys stores
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 06:37 AM UTC
Those indy link tracks are a pain and by far the most intimidating part of the project. The idea of spending all day to build tracks that only look marginally OK is not something I looked forward to. Nevertheless I did it 7 times.

5 DML M4A4 Fireflies, 1 DML M4A4 75mm and 1 DML M4 Hybrid.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 06:49 AM UTC
I may order an after market set of tracks
tazz
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 06:51 AM UTC
i just got my fire fly,
i was shcoked how fast the post office has been latey.
but this is one nice sherman kit.
the detail is just about the best i seen on another.
of the shermans i have built
but i think iam going to go with after marekt
tracks i have no clue to how build the indy tracks,
and shape it around the sprocekt and ider wheel
so good luck geting your fire fly ist worth every penny
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 09:04 AM UTC
Just beware guys when you order aftermarket tracks for the older DML M4A4 kits. Except for the newest Firefly (can't remember kit number) the hull is too long. Make sure that when you get AM tracks that you get enough link to links to accomdate the extra length. I'm sure they give you enough extras but better ask to make sure. Same goes for rubberbands. I don't think the AFV Club M4A4 T49 rubberbands fit the older M4A4 kits, just the new Firefly.

I don't want any of you guys to get caught short (LOL)! Just be aware when ordering that this problem may exist.
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:07 AM UTC
Howdy fellas,

First!.....I want to take the opportunity to say a BIG "thumbs-up!" to our good member Tigeriv. Not only has he been patient listening to all of this 'Sherman' banter, but the good lad has had the courage to step up to the plate and plunk his hard-earned sheckles down for a true-blue SHERMAN kit!.......I think the gentleman deserve's some 'kudo's' guys....
Bloody good on ya Tigeriv.

Now. That you've done the dastardly deed......

From what our informed ShermiesRule says, the 'indy' tracks' are a real bear!(pardon the pun thebear) So fellas, this look's like a prime opportunity for 'Murphy's Law' to place a foul taste in the mouth of someone who is 'reaching out' to the Allied side of modeling by building a Sherman kit, and will be having a tough time of the tracks............
Is there any 'easier' solution? Is there a company or a brand name of AM or manufactured tracks that we can point him at??????
I just think his effort, is worth our effort.
Believe me, if I had the answer, I'd share it. Unfortunately I don't. So I'm counting on the generousity of my compadre's here at the big 'A'.....

Tread.

Think.....we have a german armour dude, who's at least willing to spend some time in the 'other' camp.....
tazz
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:23 AM UTC
hi all ,so the AFV Club M4A4 T49 rubberbands,
will fit the dragonfly.
and does teh dragon fly have the new hull??
thankshere is a link for the tracks i just lloked that tese tracks more closer.
i dont think they are the right ones for the firefly there thread is drifrent.
the ones on the fire fly have the t-48 set tracks . maybe i get get a set of
fruil tracks
http://www.militaryhobbies.com/product.cfm?ProductID=284
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:56 AM UTC
There have been 3 versions of DML/Dragon Fireflies. The first two have the incorrect hull, while the latest has the correct hull.

One more thing that gets a little confusing. Because of the multibank engines (4 Chrysler engines connected together), the M4A4 was longer than the M4, M4A1 with it's radial engine, M4A2 with the diesel engine, and the M4A3 with the Ford engine. However the first two DML/Dragon FIrefly kits, DML M4A4, DML M4A4 w60lb rockets all had hulls that were too long.

I have no experience with AM tracks except for the T49 3bar cleat rubberbands from AFV Club. Please note there are TWO style T49 rubberbands, the M4 and M4A4. Of course the Firefly will use the M4A4. I am not sure if the M4A4 rubberband will fit the older incorrect longer Firefly model.

Did you get that?

You know I just might have to build my Tiger. If Tigeriv can take a crack at a Shermie it wouldn't kill me to build my Tiger.
tazz
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 12:03 PM UTC
thanks its very confusing.
i have the newest firefly.
thanks alan
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 12:12 PM UTC



Quoted Text

"...You know I just might have to build my Tiger. If Tigeriv can take a crack at a Shermie it wouldn't kill me to build my Tiger..."



Hmhmhm.......after all that superb intel, I always suspected our good Alan had a 'soft heart'......

Geee, considering a Tiger huh? On which handrail will you display it??/?

Tread. :-)
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 12:54 PM UTC
Well I didn't say the Tiger couldn't be wrecked and surrounded by Shermans
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 12:57 PM UTC



Quoted Text

"...Well I didn't say the Tiger couldn't be wrecked and surrounded by Shermans ..."



....as it should be....

Tread.
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