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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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looking for some paint instruction sheet
Francisco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:17 AM UTC
I think this kit has paint instructions for kurt sowa's kingtiger 222...does anyone have this kit?I'm building it in 72nd but I'm lacking some info about the ambush scheme on this particular tigre..If you could please look at your stash I would really appreciate it!!

thanx in advance



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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:15 AM UTC
here are the colors for the ambush paint
xf-60 dark yellow
xf-61 dark green
xf 64 red brown
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:44 AM UTC
As it just so happens, I am working on this very same kit now. The three painting/decal options they show are for a non-zimmerit ambush scheme (box cover hull number 332) a 3 tone full zimerit version which was in Hungary at end of war (#233) and the one which is zimmerited every where except for a patch in the middle of the turret where they painted a picture of a n armored knight on horseback. Tiger is in the panzer yellow / red-brown camo scheme hull number 132. I can scan and email you the pages from instruction book if you want them, most books depict these schemes which are not unusual
Francisco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:04 PM UTC
thank you very much steve but my major concern was gettin some drawings deppicting tiger 222 so I could copy the camouflage pattern.
I found 2 sites with some photos of a couple of kits finished but their camo doesnt match altough both have the ambush scheme...I guess it wont be accurate but I'll jut get my artistic license on this one and improve a bit on the pattern....what do ya think?

Found in missing lynks:


found elsewhere :

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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:17 PM UTC
This site here has Tamiya instructions uploaded on their site. Go to 1/35 armor kits and page through until you find the King Tiger kit. Then page through the color guide pages until you find the camouflage marking schemes.
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/plamo/index_e.asp?Bno=&Typ1_c=102
Francisco
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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 01:35 AM UTC
incredible thanks a lot it's exactly what I need and I didnt know about that site :O
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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 04:20 AM UTC
If you want to paint 222 correctly it was a soft edge ambush scheme ,but most important thing is the numbers 222 were in yellow only...This is one of the KT's going to the 509th and were rerouted to the 501st SS for the Ardennes Offensive.

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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 07:56 AM UTC
This was what I've been told at the Axis History Forum

[quote]If you do decide to do 222 near the Stavelot bridge, pay close attention to the camoflage pattern in the photos. 222 had the "ambush scheme" dots, but it was apparently painted by spray instead of brush, and it had a different pattern from most of the other tanks of s. SS-Pz.Abt. 501 seen in the Ardennes. Many of those seem to have had a "standard" pattern with the ambush dots and very similar overall brush-painted schemes (008, 105, 204, 213, and some others that don't show the turret numbers in photos).

It's possible that 222's paint was different because it may have been one of 11 Tiger IIs that were built in Sep 44 and originally delivered to s. Pz.Abt. 509, but taken away and given to SS-501 in early Dec 44. I have no proof of this, but Tiger 332 (now at Fort Knox) was apparently one of those 11, and it was painted by spray (but with no "ambush" dots).

You'll also see some differences of opinion in the color of the 222 turret numbers. In some of the photos and films (it was filmed at different locations by two SS-Kriegsberichter teams) it looks like the turret numbers are a lighter color with no outlines. Other photos look like a light shade, with an even lighter outline. No hard evidence either way. The other 2. Kompanie numbers showing in photos (204, 213) look like they're probably the usual red-white.

At any rate, 222 didn't have the same paint scheme as many of the rest of the SS-501 tanks, so the surviving photos have to be the guide.
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