Just thought I'd put up a picture to show that they did sometimes put everything back after up armoring a tank.
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 08:20 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 08:33 AM UTC
Kerry I just went back to look at the M4A2 ...I don,t see a step ...The step they are talking about is on the barrel itself and not where the barrel meets the mantlet.
hth
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 09:50 AM UTC
Actually the front armor piece is as flat as you are going to get it onto the front of the tank. Since the front glacis and the transmission cover have different slopes there is a small concave section where the bolt strip is located. If I removed the arms it could not go any father back. I could try and add a few more steel supports on the gap.
Actually spaced armor is an effective way to throw the timing of an incoming shell off the mark. When the shell hits the outer piece or armor is starts the fuse. Those extra milliseconds cause the shell to explode in the air gap outside of the original armor. The Germans do this on many of their older tanks with Shurtzen.
I considered it but the periscope cupola is molded as part ofthe turret on the Italeri M4A1 76mm. Perhaps the Verlinden turret has interchangeable cupolas
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I think if there are an air gape between the steel plates and original armour the enemy bullets piercing the steel plates like the expression hot knife throw butter and the extra steel plates would be useless. This is only guesses from mine side, correct me if I’m wrong.
Actually spaced armor is an effective way to throw the timing of an incoming shell off the mark. When the shell hits the outer piece or armor is starts the fuse. Those extra milliseconds cause the shell to explode in the air gap outside of the original armor. The Germans do this on many of their older tanks with Shurtzen.
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I will definitely be looking into the difficulty of this 'swap'.....
Tread.
I considered it but the periscope cupola is molded as part ofthe turret on the Italeri M4A1 76mm. Perhaps the Verlinden turret has interchangeable cupolas
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 10:34 AM UTC
It should be a relatively easy conversion with the help of a CMD turret. I believe that both hatch rings were exactly the same size on the 1to1 version and are the same in 1/35 as well. I might just break away from my Canadian Armour run and do an American Shermie as well.
cheers,
Bryan
cheers,
Bryan
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:25 AM UTC
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"...It should be a relatively easy conversion...I might just break away from my Canadian Armour run and do an American Shermie as well.
cheers,
Bryan
.....dare ya.....
Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 05:50 PM UTC
Rick, you mean they are talking about those two little grooves before it goes into the mantlet, if that is it, they aren't no bigger then where the sprue tore off marks further out on the barrel.
I thought you was talking about that big step on the mantlet, now that would be hard to remove, and now I see it is on the mantlet to what I was talking about. sorry about that.
I'm trying to learn, and when there is arguing, I try to see who is right, so then I'll be right. None of us like to be wrong, but somebody has to be. So we try to learn the best we can, to move out of that position.
Thank you Rick for clearing that up for me.
I thought you was talking about that big step on the mantlet, now that would be hard to remove, and now I see it is on the mantlet to what I was talking about. sorry about that.
I'm trying to learn, and when there is arguing, I try to see who is right, so then I'll be right. None of us like to be wrong, but somebody has to be. So we try to learn the best we can, to move out of that position.
Thank you Rick for clearing that up for me.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2004 - 04:03 AM UTC
I still have the paper template so next time I just won't cut the headlight holes. Live and learn... whoever does it next will have no excuses !