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36th ID Bradley Pics - This Is Not All!
Epi
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Posted: Monday, August 02, 2004 - 02:30 AM UTC
Well, Armorguy had a question about where the shells eject from on a Bradley. So I took these pictures for him. I have more, but I am having trouble resizing them. This is my "FLOAT" Bradley that I use to test my equipment on:

This is where the 7.62mm Coax machine gun is mounted:

This is the locking handle for the barrel:

This picture show the ejection port for the expended 25mm shell casings. On a A2, there is a hinged dust cover over the hole:

Here is the buisness end of the 25mm Bushmaster main gun:
armorguy
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Posted: Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:06 PM UTC
Epi,

Thanks for the pictures. I really appreciate it! They're very good. Any other pictures you've got would be great too.
Epi
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Posted: Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:17 PM UTC
No problem!!!! They are on my hard drive on my computer at home. Ive been very busy these past couple of days, so I havnt had time to mess with them. As soon as I do, they will be on there way to you.

As you can see, I have access to the Bradley 4 days a week, so if there are any particular parts you wnat taken, just let me know........
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Posted: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 04:35 AM UTC
When I first saw your post heading, I was like "What??? 36th ID???"
I LIKE IT!
My uncle, a Jersey boy born in Mexico, enlisted and was placed in the Headquarters Co. 2d Bn 142d Infantry, 36th ID. He became a Veteran of Salerno, San Pietro, Anzio, Southern France, Germany and Austria. He was awarded the Bronze Star for actions under fire (which he finally is talking about; IMHO, he deserved at least a Silver Star), and somehow made it home.
I am very proud to know that the Texas Division lives on!
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Posted: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:21 AM UTC
Yup, 49th is no longer around. 49th was reflaged as the 36th ID a couple of weeks ago. I never new how much history was behind the 36th. I am proud to be prat of it now. I dont know if you heard Bob, my brigade, the 56thBCT of the 36th ID, is heading for Iraq. Unfortunatley I am not going with my unit, but they will be mobilizing this weekend and the activation ceramony is on the 15th. another battle streamer for the 36th ID flag!!!!!!
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 09:37 AM UTC
Hey Pete. Send me some of the interior turret and the rest of the interior shots you might have for the Bradley. I am doing a complete interior. Turret interior and hull Interior by Eduard and I need the colors to make it as accurate as I can.

BTW are you the same Pete by chance that worked at the hobby shop in Bedford with Jay? If so I know you I'm the guy in the wheelchair---Jerry.

[email protected]
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:10 AM UTC
I have several interior shots of the M2A2 and M3 Bradley in my motor pool located at www.armorama.com/motorpool.
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 09:12 PM UTC

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Unfortunatley I am not going with my unit!!!



I hope that none of these guys and gals get hurt because of your broadcasting your unit's status Pete. As a Non-Commissioned Officer in the United States Army, you should know better than to do this.

As a security risk, I would leave you home as well.

I am outta here!
matt
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 09:25 PM UTC
Heck,
The local news announced when the local reserves were told they were going over.........
kkeefe
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 09:54 PM UTC
Key word being Local, but do those rags (including the Army Times) also say what equipment/personel is or is not going or do those local rags also state that the unit is not up to strength because a specific number of troops are off to a ]specific place doing (additional?) training? F-NO!

If I was in his unit, I would be pissed that he has just compromised the safety and well being of my unit's members not to mention my ass. I would have him up in front of the 1SG and beyond for this and his previous broadcast.

This is totally unacceptable and totally unprofessional to me and as a former SSG, I protest!!

I have just been through this 'breech' with his last post. Fortunately I was able to get it deleted. I can't keep up to what else he has to 'offer' (I do have a life and thankfully, no one during my time was willing (for a better word) to compromise my safety. This would NOT have been tolerated in my day!)

I wonder how his CO and CSM would react to the 'breech'.? I would love to find out. I'd be willing to bet that he would NOT be an NCO any longer.

Maybe he should go. Perhaps a few rounds buzzing his head or seeing to his buddies' heads getting buzzed would shut him up.

It is one thing to be proud. It is another thing to be careless.
matt
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:03 PM UTC
the local news here is more like Reigonal
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:31 PM UTC
Sorry Kevin, but I have to disagree with you here. I don't think Pete gave away any OPSEC. The info he gave out could be seen on the Official Army News page. He didn't giva any Operationally Specific info, nothing compromising. And I was a Battery Commander in Iraq, whet he put out was not an issue. Anyways, if any terrorist agency is using Armorama as an intelligence gatherimg network, that is pretty bad. There are plenty of other areas they could get info from that is much better. Most of the time, we get technical details for vehicles wrong anyways.
kkeefe
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:51 PM UTC

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I don't think Pete gave away any OPSEC. The info he gave out could be seen on the Official Army News page.



As far as I'm concerned, he did in his original Junk Drawer topic.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:02 PM UTC
Didn't see the "Junk Drawer " post, can't comment on it.
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:57 AM UTC
I hope no one takes offence at my reply since I'm an egyptian living in Egypt. But I read About those reserves going to Iraq on a couple of news internet sites which are directed to the Arab world. Plus, anyone who knows anything about the Arab world, knows that what happens in the States is known here by any regular guy on the street who uses a computer or has access to a satellite dish. Trust me, there ARE NO local news anymore. Ofcourse I'm talking about regular news that is broadcast everywhere. Anything with any leve of security would not even be broadcast on even the most local rag you got there.
One final note. And again I hope no one takes offence.. You people in the States give these so called resistance fighters in Iraq too much importance. The only reason thay're still around is cause politics holds the US troops back and makes them fight with one arm tied behind their backs. This the truth. Trust me, I'm not pro anybody or anything except making money and having a good time.
I'll say it again. I hope I didn't offend anyone here with what I said. I just felt the guy who said that "piece of news' was geting a raw deal. Thanks for tolerating me.
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 03:35 AM UTC
True, I have heard the Iraqi militants often come to armorama.com to see the operational status of Texas units preparing to deploy !!

Hell, the local papers here posted the pics of every man / woman in the 127th before they left for Fort Hood for training. Later, they posted exactly where they wouldbe located and the name of the base they would be operating under.

OPSEC for this operation is a joke at best for units going over at this stage of the game. Hey, when we landed the beach in Somalia, wasn't it CNN who was waiting there at 0200 for the Marines to come ashore ??

Lighten up will ya !!!

Epi
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 09:55 PM UTC
First, thanks Gino, Matt, and Frank for providing info to back me up. All though I appriciate it, I dont hink I gave out any information that hasnt already been given out on the news or papers here.

12 years in the military, I think I know a little bit about OPSEC!!!! I lived OPSEC for 3 years in Germany back in the early 90's. Watching what you said on the phone when you talked with your family back in the states, having to leave early in the morning to work, because you lived out in the ecomomy and had to check your car for bombs and other stuff.
Im not a "NO-GO" soldier. I've done my active duty time. I've already been to the "Big Sand Box", so the comment about having bullets wiz by my head and watching my budies head explode, was not warrented!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not sure if you know this, but all our FRAGO and Mob orders are on the internet. Daily staff breifings are psoted there to. Granted, you need to be a military memeber to sign in and have an AKO account to access these sights, but now a days, you can get into anything with a little now how. So if you dont beleive me and think what I said is the ultimate sin, see for your self!!!!!!

Texas Army Online
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 06:56 AM UTC
Ok, I apologize.

I was not aware that unit FRAGs are now being posted on the internet on a daily basis. I was not aware that it is now "ok" to discuss actual troop numbers and unit (indirectly) MOS (to assume related MOS equipment that will or will not be going) requirements on deployment openly on the internet as you did on your original Junk Drawer note. I apologize.

I did not go to your link, did not want to sign in but I now know all that I need to know and much more about the Texas NG (and the 36th ID) anyway. Much more than I know about my own local Massachusetts (ya, the great liberal state of Massachusetts) units that are, will be and have been deployed and I consider myself to be quite the news junkie. (Internet, TV and print media constantly.) Obviously, I am not going to the right places for my 'news'. Not once have I heard of their troop 'strengths' or equipment requirements.

I was always under the impression that what took place within the 'office' stayed in the 'office' (with the exception and to a limit of immediate family) however, that is obviously not the case anymore. I still would never have repeated anything (published or not) to the extent that you did in your original JD note and that quite frankly upset me. Conduct that I would not expect (but I guess it is now ok?). I would be so afraid to even think that perhaps I jeopardized one American Soldier's life by 'talking' loosely. I do not believe that I could deal with that. A soldier's life or his family's. Again, I guess that it doesn't matter anymore. Good thing I'm not in Military PR or a military related webmaster eh?

I too have had my share of OPSEC but I have never repeated what was considered OPSEC or not nor have I ever heard of any other troop 'strengths' being discussed on any other DG that I visit.

If this society has become so open, and that absolutely nothing is sacred anymore, then God help us all. Who in their right mind would want to be 'in charge' of this Charlie-Foxtrot?(Way too many liberals around here.)

Individual activation? (I don't think that I would go into great detail there if it was mine.)

So, again and for the third time, I apologize. I am wrong for being from the 'old school' and not keeping 'up' with the times. You will not hear another word from me here.
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