Does this work? I am thinking about trying it out on my F-4 with South East Asia camo.
Thanks!
~Chip :-)
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Silly Putty Masking Work?
chip250
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 02:39 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 02:52 PM UTC
Hi chip...
yes it does work.
Don't leave it on too long though as it can harden and prove a little stuborn to get off.
Also when its removed and the paint is hard, give the plane a gentle wash in water and a tiny drop of liquid dish soap to de-grease and get rid of any oily residue just in case.
On the Bv155 I didn't and it caused a "little" problem with future...I had to wet and dry the first future application away. It was a pain to do but it worked out ok in the end...if only I'd washed it first...lol.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
yes it does work.
Don't leave it on too long though as it can harden and prove a little stuborn to get off.
Also when its removed and the paint is hard, give the plane a gentle wash in water and a tiny drop of liquid dish soap to de-grease and get rid of any oily residue just in case.
On the Bv155 I didn't and it caused a "little" problem with future...I had to wet and dry the first future application away. It was a pain to do but it worked out ok in the end...if only I'd washed it first...lol.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 03:55 PM UTC
Could I:
1. paint it
2. Let the paint dry
3. take off the putty
4. scrub it down with dish soap and a toothbrush?
or should I use a rag or paper towel or something like that.
~Chip
1. paint it
2. Let the paint dry
3. take off the putty
4. scrub it down with dish soap and a toothbrush?
or should I use a rag or paper towel or something like that.
~Chip
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 04:03 PM UTC
Hi Chip...
Aply the base coat then when completely dry stick on your silly putty and spray the second colour.
When touch dry, carefully pull off the silly putty...be careful of finger prints. If you can leave a lot of excess putty over the edges of the model it'll give you something to grab hold of.
Then when the second coat is completely dry, dip it into a bowl of the water/dish soap gentley then rinse in clear water. let it dry off totally then you are ready for the next stage..
Cheers
Peter
:-)
Aply the base coat then when completely dry stick on your silly putty and spray the second colour.
When touch dry, carefully pull off the silly putty...be careful of finger prints. If you can leave a lot of excess putty over the edges of the model it'll give you something to grab hold of.
Then when the second coat is completely dry, dip it into a bowl of the water/dish soap gentley then rinse in clear water. let it dry off totally then you are ready for the next stage..
Cheers
Peter
:-)
Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 04:55 PM UTC
Hi Chip. Flizzer has used this probably many times more, than my one single go, but I learnt some tips that help, or at least, are worth considering.
The base coat needs to be perfectly dry ..allow as much time as possible .. 2 days. If you need to wash afterwards, at least you know your base is cured.
Roll the silly putty as thin as possible. The thinner it is, the easier it is to work with, and the better it conforms to shapes.
Tape still works. By this I mean, on long straight panels where there are no shapes, use tape as it is better, and keeps the line better. Tape the straight areas first with tape, and in the gaps use the putty.
When the putty is rolled out into a long sausage, flatten it down. Then using a ruler and knife, straighten the edge without applying too much pressure on the ruler ... it wont slide.
The putty doesn´t need to be kneeded into place. Place carefully, by holding one end ... then placing, using the end of a brush ... manouvering it into corners. It only needs a little contact to stay in place.
If the putty sausage is very thin, mask again using tape on top of the putty. This is quite quick as you dont need to be careful and it protects against overspray.
As usual spray away from putty and tape, so it doesnt bleed under!
Good luck
The base coat needs to be perfectly dry ..allow as much time as possible .. 2 days. If you need to wash afterwards, at least you know your base is cured.
Roll the silly putty as thin as possible. The thinner it is, the easier it is to work with, and the better it conforms to shapes.
Tape still works. By this I mean, on long straight panels where there are no shapes, use tape as it is better, and keeps the line better. Tape the straight areas first with tape, and in the gaps use the putty.
When the putty is rolled out into a long sausage, flatten it down. Then using a ruler and knife, straighten the edge without applying too much pressure on the ruler ... it wont slide.
The putty doesn´t need to be kneeded into place. Place carefully, by holding one end ... then placing, using the end of a brush ... manouvering it into corners. It only needs a little contact to stay in place.
If the putty sausage is very thin, mask again using tape on top of the putty. This is quite quick as you dont need to be careful and it protects against overspray.
As usual spray away from putty and tape, so it doesnt bleed under!
Good luck
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 06:06 PM UTC
Thanks Frank...
a nice bit of refining the post.
If you masked off the second camo colour with tape first then added putty sausages over the edge of the tape and base colour...it might help removing it when ready...????
Cheers
Peter
:-)
a nice bit of refining the post.
If you masked off the second camo colour with tape first then added putty sausages over the edge of the tape and base colour...it might help removing it when ready...????
Cheers
Peter
:-)
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 09:23 PM UTC
Can anyone post any images of camo schemes done using this technique? I'm interested in what the finished results look like.
flitzer
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 09:39 PM UTC
Hi woodstock....
from one F1 addict to another...
if you care to check my galery, you'll find oics of a Bv155 in high altitude scheme.
This was done using silly-putty or blu-tac to be exact. In this case I used the reverse method.
i.e. spray paint base colour, in this case white.
when completely dry add putty blobs and spray second colour- grey.
Again when completely dry , again add putty blobs and paint last colour- RLM76.
Then remove all putty blobs.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
from one F1 addict to another...
if you care to check my galery, you'll find oics of a Bv155 in high altitude scheme.
This was done using silly-putty or blu-tac to be exact. In this case I used the reverse method.
i.e. spray paint base colour, in this case white.
when completely dry add putty blobs and spray second colour- grey.
Again when completely dry , again add putty blobs and paint last colour- RLM76.
Then remove all putty blobs.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:11 PM UTC
Hi flitzer,
How hard-edged are the color blobs using this technique? I guess it depends on what diameter your putty sausage is? I'm thinking of using this technique for a tank model.
How hard-edged are the color blobs using this technique? I guess it depends on what diameter your putty sausage is? I'm thinking of using this technique for a tank model.
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:18 PM UTC
Hi again...
You are correct, the fatter or taller the sausage usually the softer the edge.
Another technique is to wrap and tape to the underside rough torn paper (post-it notes) so it sort of floats on the surface and spray over that. Where the paper won't sit properly say on wing roots to fuselage sides a tiny blob of the blu-tac/silly putty under the paper will anchor it ok. It usually gives quite soft edges.
Cheers
peter
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You are correct, the fatter or taller the sausage usually the softer the edge.
Another technique is to wrap and tape to the underside rough torn paper (post-it notes) so it sort of floats on the surface and spray over that. Where the paper won't sit properly say on wing roots to fuselage sides a tiny blob of the blu-tac/silly putty under the paper will anchor it ok. It usually gives quite soft edges.
Cheers
peter
:-)
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:24 PM UTC
Cool, thanks Peter. It seems like a reasonably easy technique. Is it?
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Posted: Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:54 PM UTC
Hi again...
found two old pics....both 1/72nd
This used blu-tac mask for the wings.
This used torn paper mask for wings
If I can do it...it must be easy..lol.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
found two old pics....both 1/72nd
This used blu-tac mask for the wings.
This used torn paper mask for wings
If I can do it...it must be easy..lol.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:48 AM UTC
Thanks guys, I am definatly doing this tommorrow on the Phantom!
Thanks again!
~Chip
Thanks again!
~Chip
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2004 - 07:10 PM UTC
Regarding the putty. Silly Putty is mentioned here. Where is the best place to find that? A perusal of Walmart led to nothing. Toy store perhaps? Do hobby shops sell something I could use for this technique?
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2004 - 07:35 PM UTC
Hi Mike...
I don't know about silly-putty, but blu-tac or similar (rubbery sticky stuff like play-dou you use for sticking up posters etc) is usually available from stores that supply stationery stuff. Offices etc use it.
Hope it helps...
Cheers
Peter
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I don't know about silly-putty, but blu-tac or similar (rubbery sticky stuff like play-dou you use for sticking up posters etc) is usually available from stores that supply stationery stuff. Offices etc use it.
Hope it helps...
Cheers
Peter
:-)
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2004 - 10:42 PM UTC
Hi Mike:
I am surprised that you did not find the Silly Putty at WalMart. Your store must have been out of stock, as that is where I have bought it in the past (including both the name brand variety and a no-name knock off version).
Keith
I am surprised that you did not find the Silly Putty at WalMart. Your store must have been out of stock, as that is where I have bought it in the past (including both the name brand variety and a no-name knock off version).
Keith
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 07:04 AM UTC
Thanks Peter, I'll have a look out for that as well.
Keith,
I was surprised as well...though admittedly I did see the knock of brand but was scared away by it with fears of an oily putty ruining my model. Unfounded?
This may be unrelated, but what is "milliput"?
Keith,
I was surprised as well...though admittedly I did see the knock of brand but was scared away by it with fears of an oily putty ruining my model. Unfounded?
This may be unrelated, but what is "milliput"?