I want to do a RLM80/81 mottle over RLM76 on my 1/72 me262. I could never get it right with my airbrush even on 1/48 scale planes..so here is my thinking.
I have a bottle of mask-it easy from Micromark.
Paint the fusalge overall RLM76, the using a paint brush create mottle blotches using the liquid mask..let dry.
Now use the airbrush to coat the fuselage in RLM80 and RLM 81 in various locations..let dry
Remove the liquid mask mottle blotches (this is what scares me)..And viola!....1/72nd luftwaffe mottles...
Think it will work?
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Luftwaffe Mottle effect using liquid masking
propboy44256
Joined: November 20, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 11:49 PM UTC
flitzer
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 01:35 PM UTC
Hi Johnny....
it will work but you may get hard edges to the patches.
Another method is to use blobs of play-dough or Blu-tac (silly putty). As the blobs are thicker they'll protect the edges better.
What paint are you using? Enamel or acrylic?
Another method I've used with enamels is to do exactly as you propose, but when its touch dry but not completely cured, take thinners and with a small to medium brush touch around the edges to soften and dilute the paint so it fades/blends out to the base colour.
This method is good for "wellenmuster" mirror wave camo too.
Or the same as above plus very diluted shades of the base and mottle colours.
And yet another method is to paint the mottle by hand using again very diluted mottle colour and build it up to the desired effect. The thin paint will blend a little and give that faded variation of the mottle.
In all cases the base colour needs to be bone-dry and fully set.
You can always practice on a pieces of scrap card, to see which method suits you best.
Hope it helps.
Cheers
Peter
:-) 
it will work but you may get hard edges to the patches.
Another method is to use blobs of play-dough or Blu-tac (silly putty). As the blobs are thicker they'll protect the edges better.
What paint are you using? Enamel or acrylic?
Another method I've used with enamels is to do exactly as you propose, but when its touch dry but not completely cured, take thinners and with a small to medium brush touch around the edges to soften and dilute the paint so it fades/blends out to the base colour.
This method is good for "wellenmuster" mirror wave camo too.
Or the same as above plus very diluted shades of the base and mottle colours.
And yet another method is to paint the mottle by hand using again very diluted mottle colour and build it up to the desired effect. The thin paint will blend a little and give that faded variation of the mottle.
In all cases the base colour needs to be bone-dry and fully set.
You can always practice on a pieces of scrap card, to see which method suits you best.
Hope it helps.
Cheers
Peter
:-) 
Tarok
Joined: July 28, 2004
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 02:02 PM UTC
I'm not much of a guru when it comes to airbrushing or even aircraft, but let me share what I have read anyway.
I read that one way of doing the mottle effect is by punching a hole (size obviously depends on the size of the effect you want) in a piece of cardboard. Holding the cardboard over the area you wish to spray, line the hole up over the the area you want to spray and spray a light coat. The distance the cardboard is held over the area will also determine the eventual size, depth and fade out of the effect.
I must just state that I have never tried this, and thus have no idea if it will work...
If you try it, let me know what the outcome is...
I read that one way of doing the mottle effect is by punching a hole (size obviously depends on the size of the effect you want) in a piece of cardboard. Holding the cardboard over the area you wish to spray, line the hole up over the the area you want to spray and spray a light coat. The distance the cardboard is held over the area will also determine the eventual size, depth and fade out of the effect.
I must just state that I have never tried this, and thus have no idea if it will work...
If you try it, let me know what the outcome is...flitzer
Joined: November 13, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 02:20 PM UTC
Hi Tarok
good call.
I've done this also. I punched many holes with different objects to give a variety of shape and size to the holes.
It's a bit of a fiddle, especially on curves, but can produce good results.
Also Airwaves do mottle masks in 1/72nd, 1/48th and 1/35th. Reusable metal strip type.
Also the 1/48th fighter mottle is not bad for 1/72nd bombers.
And they are back in stock at Hannants at around GBP3.50ish each.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
good call.
I've done this also. I punched many holes with different objects to give a variety of shape and size to the holes.
It's a bit of a fiddle, especially on curves, but can produce good results.
Also Airwaves do mottle masks in 1/72nd, 1/48th and 1/35th. Reusable metal strip type.
Also the 1/48th fighter mottle is not bad for 1/72nd bombers.
And they are back in stock at Hannants at around GBP3.50ish each.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
propboy44256
Joined: November 20, 2002
KitMaker: 1,038 posts
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 11:33 PM UTC
Hey thanks for everyones input, I was acrylics exclusively...I am going to try the play-doh method
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Hi Johnny....
it will work but you may get hard edges to the patches.
Another method is to use blobs of play-dough or Blu-tac (silly putty). As the blobs are thicker they'll protect the edges better.
What paint are you using? Enamel or acrylic?
Another method I've used with enamels is to do exactly as you propose, but when its touch dry but not completely cured, take thinners and with a small to medium brush touch around the edges to soften and dilute the paint so it fades/blends out to the base colour.
This method is good for "wellenmuster" mirror wave camo too.
Or the same as above plus very diluted shades of the base and mottle colours.
And yet another method is to paint the mottle by hand using again very diluted mottle colour and build it up to the desired effect. The thin paint will blend a little and give that faded variation of the mottle.
In all cases the base colour needs to be bone-dry and fully set.
You can always practice on a pieces of scrap card, to see which method suits you best.
Hope it helps.
Cheers
Peter
Delbert
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Joined: October 05, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 07:40 AM UTC
Hey there.. i wish u better luck on the play dough method.. i tried that 1 time doing a marine 3 tone camo on a DUKW.. worked very well.. untill it came time to remove the stuff.. anyways should work better on planes than a vehicle...
let us know how it turns out.
let us know how it turns out.
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