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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2004 - 08:59 PM UTC
Was the typical ambush scheme used on the Eastern Front as well?
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2004 - 09:23 PM UTC
Mike,
It most certainly was. The "ambush scheme" was painted at the factory (so I've read), so vehicles going to either front would have them. HTH.
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It most certainly was. The "ambush scheme" was painted at the factory (so I've read), so vehicles going to either front would have them. HTH.
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2004 - 11:21 PM UTC
Thanks. That may have been an obvious answer but I just wasn't sure.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 10:51 AM UTC
Ambush scheme was very impressive.
Is this possible:
Panther Ausf. D with ambush scheme?
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Is this possible:
Panther Ausf. D with ambush scheme?
http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00314/9718767.jpg
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 07:11 PM UTC
that's a Panther G
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 04:07 AM UTC
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that's a Panther G
I tried to ask:
Are there any pictures of where the Panther Ausf. D would be painted in an ambush scheme?
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 05:03 AM UTC
I've never seen one and the D model was out of production long before the ambush scheme was introduced ,so I'd say it was unlikely.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 05:47 AM UTC
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D model was out of production long before the ambush scheme was introduced
Ok, thanks for the answer.
Now I have a good reason to buy the Panther Ausf. G model
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 06:33 AM UTC
I guess it could be feasible that some of those Ds were sent back for re-manufacture and returned to service in an ambush scheme. Maybe a "frankenstein" Panther with a D hull and G turret and road wheels. It could be a fun build.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 07:43 AM UTC
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I guess it could be feasible that some of those Ds were sent back for re-manufacture and returned to service in an ambush scheme.
Possible, but no evidence has been present.
I know this because I have seen hundreds of pictures of Panther tank.
But let's see what the others think.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 12:38 PM UTC
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Now I have a good reason to buy the Panther Ausf. G model
Well, there's never a bad reason to buy a Panther, but I'd suggest a Late version G.
That second photo looks like a model, and the camo doesn't look like "ambush" camo, just very squiggly, likely field-applied.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 05:18 PM UTC
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Quoted TextI guess it could be feasible that some of those Ds were sent back for re-manufacture and returned to service in an ambush scheme.
Possible, but no evidence has been present.
I know this because I have seen hundreds of pictures of Panther tank.
But let's see what the others think.
And I won't dispute that. But it is an option to explain a model if the modeler wants to take some artistic license.
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 03:20 AM UTC
alex wrote:
"And I won't dispute that. But it is an option to explain a model if the modeler wants to take some artistic license."
True, but then it is what if.
Panther tank model is a serious topic
"And I won't dispute that. But it is an option to explain a model if the modeler wants to take some artistic license."
True, but then it is what if.
Panther tank model is a serious topic
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 07:38 AM UTC
Perhaps less "what if" and more "a reasonably situation", but that's splitting hairs and a matter of perspective I guess. I could see something like that happen.
Anyway, if I did a "frankenstein" Panther in ambush scheme I'd probably go with a Panther A upgraded with Panther G components.
You could also have a field painted version. Maybe the vehicle is a replacement tank and the crew repaints it to match the rest.
Anyway, if I did a "frankenstein" Panther in ambush scheme I'd probably go with a Panther A upgraded with Panther G components.
You could also have a field painted version. Maybe the vehicle is a replacement tank and the crew repaints it to match the rest.
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 07:48 AM UTC
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alex wrote:
"And I won't dispute that. But it is an option to explain a model if the modeler wants to take some artistic license."
True, but then it is what if.
Panther tank model is a serious topic![]()
Gotta agree here with the Eggman.
There's "artistic license" and then there's "flights of fantasy."
Without any evidence, a Panther D in a factory ambush cammo is going past "artistic license" and into the relms of fantasy and hypothetical. Just because something is technically possible doesn't make it historically likely. Once you get to the historically improbable, then you've crossed the line to hypothetical subjects.
At that point, you really need to show evidence from research of your subject or accept that you're building a fantasy model.
And there's no shortage of historically accurate subjects that are so bizarre and unusual that mere descriptions would seem fantasy or hypothetical. A friend is building a model of an M18-T55 hybrid tank. But this vehicle is well documented. Now, if he had just told me about it without the photo reference, then I would have categorized the model as a fantasy or hypothetical subject.
However, with the photos to prove it existed, it's not only cool, it's historically correct.
There's no shortage of really cool and historically correct Panthers to build. If someone wants to build a "Frankenstein" what-if, as long as it's understood that it's a hypothetical or fantasy subject, that's cool too.
As for me, though, there're too many important historical subjects and not enough time to build them all to worry about other "what if's"
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 08:52 AM UTC
Again, I'm not going to dispute that. It's merely an option and a possible explanation if one wanted to use a Panther D in Ambush Scheme. I never said it was real, merely a feasible back story for taking some artistic license.
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 09:03 AM UTC
Here http://www.am-works.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=camo are some templates for painting the ambush camo pattern. A lot easier than cutting an agonizing number of them from tape.
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