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generalzod
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2002 - 10:21 PM UTC
Does anyone know of a company that makes a good set of U S tank tools WW 2 era? I don't like the ones that come with the Italeri Shermans
Chad #:-)
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2002 - 11:13 PM UTC
Hi Chad..........this is by Verlinden.
Item # - 1476
Pioneer Tools,
Racks, Clamps (for US Armored Tanks & Vehicles) 1:35 Scale



- ralph
herberta
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2002 - 11:23 PM UTC
Hi Chad

I have the kit Ralph shows. It's not bad. The resin tools need a bid of cleanup, but the photoetch is really easy to bend into shape. A few of the resin bits were broken in my set, but they'll be easy to fix with superglue.

You get enouch brass to do a lot of kits. More tools would be nice, there are only two sets in the box.

Andy
generalzod
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2002 - 11:30 PM UTC
Thanks for the assist Ralph and Andy I take it thereis enough tools for two kits?
Chad
Hollowpoint
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2002 - 11:36 PM UTC
I think Collector's Brass makes some nice tools, if you can find them. I'm partial to the tools that come in the Tamiya kits of U.S. vehicles and try to scavenge them whenever I can.

An alternative to replacing tools is to have some of the tools missing. Use tie-downs and straps to show where the tool is supposed to be, but the tool is missing. Don't forget to add any metal brackets, etc., that helped hold the tool in place. If you look at photos of actual vehicles, lots of times some or all of the tools are MIA.

Chad, you're so-o-o-o right about some of those Italeri tools being crappy. Especially the shovels.
CaptainJack
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2002 - 11:45 PM UTC
Hey guys,

The Tank Workshop does some excellent one's with the straps moulded in situ. Collectors brass do the racked assembly, and separate items. M.R. Models also does good U.S. tools, but of all of them I have a preference for the TTW items as they are easy to use and look the part.

Jacko
generalzod
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:46 AM UTC
Hey hey Capt.Jack Do you know what the item # is for the TTW tool set? I looked in the www.modelmecca.com (vls) site They do sell Tank Workshop stuff but didn't have the tool set listed I looked twice Maybe it's under a different name
Chad
CaptainJack
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:37 AM UTC
The reference number is................TTW 0074. Listed as M4 hull detail set it includes all the standard on-board tools. This set also includes neat assorted items such as a well defined siren, and other sherman specific bits.

Jack
screamingeagle
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 04:15 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I think Collector's Brass makes some nice tools, if you can find them. I'm partial to the tools that come in the Tamiya kits of U.S. vehicles and try to scavenge them whenever I can.

An alternative to replacing tools is to have some of the tools missing. Use tie-downs and straps to show where the tool is supposed to be, but the tool is missing. Don't forget to add any metal brackets, etc., that helped hold the tool in place. If you look at photos of actual vehicles, lots of times some or all of the tools are MIA.

Chad, you're so-o-o-o right about some of those Italeri tools being crappy. Especially the shovels.



Hollowpoint is correct CB makes some nice accessory tool sets for U.S. vehicles.
You can get them at VLS, but unfortunately there's no pictures
https://www.modelmecca.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?go=Search&partnumber=CB%200039

https://www.modelmecca.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?go=Search&partnumber=CB%200040

- ralph



clovis899
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:03 AM UTC
Have to agree with ScreamingEagle and Hollowpoint that Collectors Brass are very nice, and extremely easy to use.

Rick Cooper
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:14 AM UTC

Quoted Text

An alternative to replacing tools is to have some of the tools missing. Use tie-downs and straps to show where the tool is supposed to be, but the tool is missing. Don't forget to add any metal brackets, etc., that helped hold the tool in place. If you look at photos of actual vehicles, lots of times some or all of the tools are MIA.



This is a correct/true statement. Even today, you will rarely see much in the way of tools on AFVs. There are several reasons for this. The tools are a pain in the butt to strap on and take off each time they are used, and they cannot be stored that way because they are too easy to "borrow" when someone else wants them. The straps tend to deteriorate and break, or disappear, and can work themselves loose, which leads to lost tools. For all of these reasons, it is normally much easier to store the tools inside the vehicle, or wedge them in among other stowage. So missing tools at the points they are officially supposed to be stored shouldn't be a problem.
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