_GOTOBOTTOM
Dioramas: Techniques
Diorama techniques and related subjects.
Hosted by Darren Baker
making german ammunition?
MATTTOMLIN
Visit this Community
Australian Capital Territory, Australia
Joined: June 01, 2003
KitMaker: 431 posts
Armorama: 388 posts
Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 07:59 PM UTC
hi all, i am not sure whether this thread is meant to be in the figs or dioramas, anyway, i was wondering if anyone knew how to scratchbuild german mg42 ammo belts. i have few that figs are shooting, and it looks a little strange with out any ammo feeding the gun., it seems pretty slack of tamiya not to include the belts with the figs in the kits, so this is my last resort?

thnx

matt
piwi
Visit this Community
Nord, France
Joined: March 15, 2004
KitMaker: 712 posts
Armorama: 558 posts
Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 08:56 PM UTC
Why don't you try to cut copper wire in small part ?
Gunny
Visit this Community
Pennsylvania, United States
Joined: July 13, 2004
KitMaker: 6,705 posts
Armorama: 713 posts
Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 09:17 PM UTC
Matt..
I bet that with Envar's Excerpts Vol. 2 and a little imagination you might come up with something to help you out, sir...Just a thought...

Gunny
Bus
Visit this Community
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Joined: December 11, 2003
KitMaker: 846 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 06:26 AM UTC
Pierre´s tip is good!Paint the cooper and then cut it in small bits
TsunamiBomb
Visit this Community
Arizona, United States
Joined: September 21, 2004
KitMaker: 1,447 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 08:43 AM UTC
alot of kits come with ammo belts. Tamiya makes a mg team, the mold sucks but you can still use the belts.
KFMagee
Visit this Community
Texas, United States
Joined: January 08, 2002
KitMaker: 1,586 posts
Armorama: 1,225 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 08:36 AM UTC
I have done this before... and it came out fairly well, if you have the patience.

1) buy a small brass (not copper) wire at your favorite hobby store, along with a thin strip of styrene about 1/16th wide. (plastruct or evergreen).

2) Cut this to length with wire snips. Don't worry about the marred ends, they won't show after the next step.

3) paint the tips a dark charcoal grey and allow everything to dry.

4) paint a thin layer of Modelmaster liquid glue across the plastic strip... modelmaster is an exceptionally "hot" glue that really melts plastruct strip. The first coat is to prime and soften the surface. Before this coat is dry, place another coat about an inch long.

5) using sharp-tipped curved tweezers, place the "bullets" in line along the strip of freshly glued plastruct strip. Press them in hard then repeat steps 4 & 5 until you have the desired length of belt.

6) Knowing that metal won't stay attached to the plastruct for long, come back and lay a thin layer of CA glue along the middle of the bullets.

7) After everything dries, you can spray the entire belt flat black, and before it dries, use a q-Tip to wipe the paint from the bullets. You will be left with a lenght of slightly darkened bullets in a belt!

MATTTOMLIN
Visit this Community
Australian Capital Territory, Australia
Joined: June 01, 2003
KitMaker: 431 posts
Armorama: 388 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 05:07 PM UTC
thnx guys for all your help.

kfmagee, i am a little lost on your description, do you have any other ways of explaing it.

matt
KFMagee
Visit this Community
Texas, United States
Joined: January 08, 2002
KitMaker: 1,586 posts
Armorama: 1,225 posts
Posted: Monday, October 18, 2004 - 09:24 AM UTC
Which part is confusing? Basically, you are positioning and pressing small sections of short copper wire into a soft piece of plastic strip, and then "sealing" the final work with CA glue to hold it in place (otherwise the copper will eventually fall out of the plastic grooves made by the glue).

Does this help at all?
MATTTOMLIN
Visit this Community
Australian Capital Territory, Australia
Joined: June 01, 2003
KitMaker: 431 posts
Armorama: 388 posts
Posted: Monday, October 18, 2004 - 03:34 PM UTC
thnx kfmagee, i do understand, it was just the bit about the paint... but now i know what to do, thnx, i will give you update soon

matt
Silnious
Visit this Community
Ontario, Canada
Joined: October 18, 2005
KitMaker: 23 posts
Armorama: 22 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 01:26 PM UTC
LMAO, i got a real 50 round belt of ww2 German mg belt. all i use is the Tamiya/Dragon belts. lol keep me informed if u got a solution.
Biggles2
Visit this Community
Quebec, Canada
Joined: January 01, 2004
KitMaker: 7,600 posts
Armorama: 6,110 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 11:02 AM UTC
If you want to save a lot of time and spend a little money, buy Dragon's Gen2 'Desperate Defense' figure set. If you really can't find a use for these excellent figs, there are two MG 34/42 ammo belts. The MG 42 is also a far better molding than Tamiya's and can be modelled with an open breech while reloading.
FOXBAT31
Visit this Community
Distrito Federal, Mexico
Joined: November 22, 2004
KitMaker: 21 posts
Armorama: 10 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 12:06 PM UTC
Wow! This sounds most useful. I'm posting a reply in order not to loose this thread. I don't know yet how to keep track of these things without replying.

Cheers and happy 2006!

Martin
TacFireGuru
Visit this Community
Colorado, United States
Joined: December 25, 2004
KitMaker: 3,770 posts
Armorama: 2,263 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 05:49 PM UTC


Martin,

You won't lose the thread. At the top of the Armorama site is a link that says "my account." Click on that, then click on either "My Forum Posts" (everything you posted to) or "[ Topics Started ]" (threads you've actually started).

You'll be able to see all of you entries you posted.

HTH,

Mike
lestweforget
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Joined: November 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,832 posts
Armorama: 1,500 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 06:51 PM UTC
this thread is over a year old, and Matt's questions were answered then
jimbrae
Visit this Community
Provincia de Lugo, Spain / España
Joined: April 23, 2003
KitMaker: 12,927 posts
Armorama: 9,486 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 06:54 PM UTC

Quoted Text

this thread is over a year old, and Matt's questions were answered then



Yeah, i've just noticed as well... Why people feel it's necessary to revive old threads is beyond me...Jim
FOXBAT31
Visit this Community
Distrito Federal, Mexico
Joined: November 22, 2004
KitMaker: 21 posts
Armorama: 10 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 01:19 AM UTC
Yes, off topic,

But thanx for the kind reply and useful information, Mike.

Although I've been a member since November 2004, I had not visited here very often until lately, and thus don't know my way around very well yet. But I am currently away from home for the holidays , and wanted to keep track of this info . And THAT is precisely why I posted a reply. I know now that is off topic and I'll be more careful and try to avoid posting somethig just to keep track of the information.

Thanx again for the advice and have a Happy 2006!

Martin
FOXBAT31
Visit this Community
Distrito Federal, Mexico
Joined: November 22, 2004
KitMaker: 21 posts
Armorama: 10 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 02:35 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

this thread is over a year old, and Matt's questions were answered then



Yeah, i've just noticed as well... Why people feel it's necessary to revive old threads is beyond me...Jim



If this thread is so old, and not meant to be read or consulted , WHY NOT ERASE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Saludos a tí y a los Gallegos, tío

lestweforget
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Joined: November 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,832 posts
Armorama: 1,500 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 07:03 AM UTC
It can be read, but considering it's over a year old, and his questions were answered then, over a year ago, is there any logic in digging it up, and replying to it?
FOXBAT31
Visit this Community
Distrito Federal, Mexico
Joined: November 22, 2004
KitMaker: 21 posts
Armorama: 10 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 09:06 AM UTC

Quoted Text

It can be read, but considering it's over a year old, and his questions were answered then, over a year ago, is there any logic in digging it up, and replying to it?



Well Dave, considering that I have not yet introduced myself, here's a little explanation of where I've been in the past few years:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/66632&page=1

I have been recovering from cancer, and I had not run into that post. I wanted to find it again and never thought it would somehow bother anyone if I posted a reply. In view of these responses, I surmise I better stick to other forums.

Biggles2
Visit this Community
Quebec, Canada
Joined: January 01, 2004
KitMaker: 7,600 posts
Armorama: 6,110 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 09:51 AM UTC
Great way to start off a new year, Jim and Dave!!
lestweforget
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Joined: November 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,832 posts
Armorama: 1,500 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 10:32 AM UTC
Martin, for starters, i was not even directing my statements at anyone in particular, for your information it wasnt infact directed at you, as you simply wanted to keep track of the thread, which i understand.
Secondly, youve quoted something Jim wrote, not I, so do not direct your opinions on THAT quote at me.
Thirdly, Biggles, thanks for that useless comment mate.
Fourthly, i wont be posting on this thread again, as im continuing exactly what i was complaining about.
Cheers
Glad to know you beat it Martin (cancer)
TsunamiBomb
Visit this Community
Arizona, United States
Joined: September 21, 2004
KitMaker: 1,447 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 11:35 AM UTC
What was said to my buddy Dave was uncalled for. Think about it for just 1 second. How stupid is it to bring up a useless topic, such as this one by saying somthing just as useless as what you said... Now, spare me the trouble and kick your own a$$.
Parks20
Visit this Community
Maryland, United States
Joined: December 18, 2004
KitMaker: 737 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Monday, January 02, 2006 - 08:25 PM UTC
Wow, what a great place. Everyone is so friendly, and loving.
Biggles2-you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to shed some new information on an old post. You should never try to help others here. I hope you learned your lesson!!
 _GOTOTOP