The instructions list TS 46, but I can't get that, and there is no listed XF equivalent. I have tried the IPMS Stockholm site, but that only lists Tamiya's XF range.

If anyone has any suggestions, an FS number, another Tamiya paint, or a Humbrol one that would be very handy.

I might be able to get MM paints, and possibly Gunze, but these are pretty rare in New Zealand.

Thanks in advance

Phil

http://www.ehobbies.com/ehobbies-com/mo-tam-85046.html

reb

Hey Phil i found this no# FS 30277 Armor Sand, and FS 33637. This may or may not help. Tamiya has a paint out thats called buff no# XF57. Polly-s paints has US Desert Storm sand no# F503564 and MM paint has US Army/Marines sand no#2136. Good luck

Thanks for the help. My local model shop has a small selection of older MM paints (they are no longer imported into NZ) and he had number 1704 Armor Sand FS 30277. I'm not sure what the difference is between this and the US army/ Marines sand, but it might be the closest one I can get.

In the bottle it looks a bit grey compared to the photos I've seen of Humvees in Iraq, they look more yellow. I'll wait until I actually paint some and let it dry.

I will also try a mix of Tamiya Buff and Desert yellow. I prefer acrylics these days for airbrushing (less smell and easier clean up) and I think a mixture of these two colours should be pretty close.

Or I might just use the three colour scheme, and use sand for the gun shield etc. I've got a few photos of vehicles that are a bit mix and match, with three tone cammo, but sand wheels, gun shield etc. This might be a more interesting approach. I've got the Blast models wheels, armoured doors and gun shield on the way from France.

The best out of bottle match for current sand color is MM Sand FS#33531. This is a perfect match and, once weathered, look just like the sand vehicles I have served on in Iraq and stateside. It is the only color I use for US sand camo scheme.
MM Armour Sand and US Army/Marine Gulf War Sand are both too dark. MM Armour Sand is better for Israeli vehicles, not sure what Army/ USMC sand is good for.

Hello!
I think the best colour for this humvee is Model Master: 2136 US Army/Marines Gulf Armor Sand

See you soon
juniorkm7

I used Polly Scale 505364 US Desert Storm Sand on this Tamiya M1025 with Model Master Dark Green (#1710 equates to FS34079) from a spray can for the interior. The polly scale airbrushed really well thinned out about 20% with water. I tried Tamiyas TS46 first from their spray acrylic cans and it was horrible. The color wasn't right and the coverage was way to thick. Re-did it with the polly scale.

This looks right though.....

OH hell yeah I see you have the same problem that I have

I spent most money in sand colors for my Oif diormama in order to find the best match for sand colored US vehicles. I tried a bucn Sand colors of MM
except menitoned now " MM Sand FS#33531" in this thread. Forget the Tamya s sand color spray can
and definetly forget the ARMY MARINES color of MM if you plan to do a wash afterwards, since ARMY MARINES color is only a good match if you don t make a wahs as the color is already on the limit of darkness.


The latest Tamya magazine issue had a report about a modeler doing an M1A2 tamya kit . The color he used are the best match I ever seen :

HEre are the steps : airbrush an undercoat of light grey , then apply the main coat which is : TAMYA Buff mixed with a little bit of DARK GREY tamya color too.

then keep the buff - drak grey color in your bottle and add a bit of deck tan tamya and thin it up to 50 %
this will be a light overcoat.


Next step I did myself was : Drybrushing on someplaces with VALEJO 917 Valejo

Then add a black wash on places where dirt usually gets -> I do no more apply a complete wash only on places where it must be like wheels or other places

I will soon update my gallery and replace some old photos as some sand colored vehicles ( which were too dark) got a new layer now . Some of my sand colored vehicles will still look different as shadows and wehatering is not yet finished, check out the title of the pic where I give description.

wish you luck

Last step using pastels ( sand colors_> there are so many, up to you)

Then

HERE some of my models not yet finished in detailing and weathering and washing.

The sand colored you see on this picutre are with buff with little dark grey. THE 5T has not completely been weathered that s why the Abrams looks different although both got the same basecoat (Buff dark grey)







NOW the last picture when I used to airbrush with MM ARMY MARINES.
Same 5T truck than above but on this picture it was my first try with MM ARMY MARINES color and was too dark as you can see it ( my camera s flash is very light )

Holy Shnikies.

where did you get that 5T truck from Euro_Pro?
if been looking for one to complete my blackhawk down convoy and haven't found any. please tell!

The 5 Ton is produced by Italeri 289 M925 or the M923a1 kit 279

That desert 5t truck is not the italeri kit , (italeri 5t just behind the desert colored 5t one)
The desert painted 5t truck is completely in resin and I got that kit 2 years ago from an old man who stoped modeling, he also gave me the 155mm tracked artillery gun completly in resin !! !!

I asked him the brand of both kits , he said it was from FRANK MODELBAU , GERMANY.
They have a site on the internet but they don t do anymore the 5t and the 155 tracked modern artillery piece. As far as I know there is now brand who is selling an 155mm tracked artillery.


ITaleri makes the 5t too which is ok.

Phil,

I know this is a few days too late, and thread is pretty much dead, but I have some info that may help. I just did some research, having a few OIF projects that I want to do and needed to find the "correct" paint colors. The US military uses a paint type known as CARC, or Chemical Agent Resistant Coating. There were two colors used for Gulf applications due to shortages in repainting the huge number of vehicles(according to US Army sources, over 8000 vehicles were repainted in theatre!!). The "official" color is CARC 686A, but 686 was authorized for use due to shortages. The DoD supplier of this mil-spec paint lists it as FS33446. If you prefer acrylic, try to get Floquil Polly Scale #F505364, which is available from www.testors.com. I haven't found any other supplier, because I haven't looked any farther as yet!! Hope that helps.

Your local hobby shop or mail order place should be able to get TS46 Light sand. I get mine from VLS.
HTH
Recon

Thanks for the info on the Testors site, I tried it, but despite having New Zealand (and every other country)in the drop down menu, when I tried to place my order it came up with 'Currently we cannot ship outside of the 48 continental states or to APO, FPO, and P.O. boxes'

Here in NZ it is hard to get anything other than Humbrol enamels or Tamiya. MM paints used to be available, but I think there is no longer an agent in this country now. Something to with the dificulty in shipping them. That seems to be a common theme! And Gunze was a brand I quite liked, since it was both acrylic and gloss, which made decaling easier.

I have some MM 1704 Armor sand, FS 30277. I'm not sure how accurate this might be.

The MM Armor Sand is too dark, if you can lay your hands on Sand (not so sure on the MM number) you'll be better off.