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Jurgen
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 03:32 AM UTC
What's this on the back/roof of the right humvee?



Thanks!
dbusack
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 03:42 AM UTC
Almost looks like an air conditioner.

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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 03:50 AM UTC

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Almost looks like an air conditioner



That's what I thought allso.... but could it?!
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 05:06 AM UTC
not unless it's some other kind of Auxillary cooler for the engine??????
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 07:06 AM UTC
It is also missing the rear bumper
tom
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 07:27 AM UTC
Could be a bench or table to eat at when resting, or a seat for fixing the tire. Could also be some sort of jack.

Happy Modeling
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 08:55 AM UTC

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It is also missing the rear bumper



Blaster76, early builds of the HMMWV did not use a full width rear bumper on all models. Note that the rear tow hooks are there as is the towing pintle. IIRC the full width rear bumper did not show up until the Maxi-ambulance versions. Anyone know for sure when?

What I see that is also unusual is that the winch cable has been strung under the left HMMWV and attached to the rear. This is common among off-roaders to save crawling through mud.

Dave S.
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 10:04 AM UTC
That is in fact an air conditioner system. I saw several humvees with those mounted just before I left Baghdad in January 2004.

It is also correct that not all Humvees had rear bumpers. The configuration of the left vehicle was very common.
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2004 - 11:40 AM UTC
To add to what SGT Saur said, the HMMVW on the right is an uparmored version (most likely started as an M1025) that was done in country with a kit, not a factory M1114 Uparmored. As such, the kit has an external AC unit with it. Factory M1114s have a AC unit in the left rear area on the inside over the left rear tire and a pair of vehts along the slope of the roof. I believe the one on the left is an M1114, cant be sure though, the AC vents would be behind the Soldier's left shoulder. Reason for the AC unit, on the uparmored HMMWVs, you leave the side windows up (closed) at all times, otherwise shrapnel can still come in the window and injure or kill a crewmember. Makes the Uparmored vehicle pretty pointless if the window is still open. To keep the crew from roasting, they now have AC in them.

You can see the side vents clearly on the left rear of the below M1114. A simmilar vent is directly above this on the top of the sloped rear section.


As for the bumper, standard M998 and M1025 do not have the rear bumper, only Heavy varients (M1037, M1038, M1114, etc.) have the rear bumper. They are designed with a heavier suspension to haul/pull heavier loads. The M997 ambulance and M1114 are built on the heavy chasis to take the extra weight of the extra stuff they carry.

Hope that makes it all clear.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 02:59 PM UTC
The one on the right has an in-country updated armor kit, doors, side skirt and sometime a rear blast shield that goes inside. The door have tiny windows on a side hinges. These kits started to arrive around Dec 03, my unit never got any. We had to make our own. That is an AC system. I once was driving 60mph in Iraq and the inside temp was 117 degrees,ooh we had no doors on the vehicle.

I might have some pics on the update kit.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 10:22 PM UTC

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I might have some pics on the update kit



Show me!!
allycat
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Posted: Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 01:14 AM UTC
Good pics, Jurgen click on the
"VISIT MY SELECTED LINK" line at the bottom of Irocarmy88's post.
Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 08:41 AM UTC
Looks like it could be the prototype for the new VTOL units..... the new 'Hover Hummer'...HaHaHaHaHa
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Posted: Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 03:37 AM UTC
Jeez. AC?! I left Iraq last April and our AC was an open window!!! And we had to do our own uparmoring!!!
Jurgen
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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 01:29 AM UTC
Found another one.....

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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 01:44 AM UTC
Not a patch on an open LandRover with a .50 strapped to the roof supports though.
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