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up-date Dutch M-577
janwillem
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 06:55 AM UTC
He guys ,
Here's a up-date of my M-577 (dutch army version).
Still a few little things to do but almost ready for pianting.
I used The old Tamiya M-577 and scratch-build (for the first time) the rest, that beeing : al the tie-downs, smoke grenade gards, back lights, mirrors and last but not least the generator box.
I also used the modelkast tracks (I think thats it).
so I'll stop writing and let the pictures to the rest.
Let me know what you think

As you can see I had a real job filling in some of the gaps

The black lines are to get a feel for the camo patern

I had to do a lot of surfing on the net to get the right camo patern but I found it on this site http://www.panzerbaer.de/colours/index.htm
Hoop you guys like it
Jan-Willem
janwillem
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 08:51 AM UTC
no one
ptruhe
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 09:21 AM UTC
It looks good. How about a close up of the work you did on the Dutch smoke launchers.

It would probably be too much trouble to straighten out the driver's IR periscope but that's not big deal. The kit probably doesn't allow for the new positioning of the driver's hatch.

Ready to see the finished product.

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 09:40 AM UTC
Hi janwillem.

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How about a close up of the work you did on the Dutch smoke launchers.


Its hard to give comment, as all the detail and hard work are not clear. Some close-ups would be helpful.

What about the actual generator .... will you scratch this as well? All that detail on the roof and the large panels on the side wll look really cool with a nice paint job. Best of luck with the rest!
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 09:40 AM UTC
Howdy jan,

Since I'm also building an M577 for the 'Bucket Bonanza' Campaign I'm very interested in your entry.
She looks great! I wish you had included some closeup (macro) shots of your tie downs and such, but they look good from a distance as well.
Did you build yours from a photo? If so, could you post it?
Also, I'm not overly impressed with the kit supplied Tamiya tracks, but I'm also not sure whether the added expense of the MK track set is worth it. Since you've done a side-by-side, what do you think?

And one last question (then I'll stop bothering you ). Have you, or do you, plan to add an interior?
Good work jan....

Tread.
Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 10:14 AM UTC
Ha Janwillem, goed om te zien dat er nog steeds Nederlandse Modelen worden gebouwt.

Wat camouflage scheme are you going to use?
If you will use figures I'm most interested as I'm still working on my YPR and am trying to get some Dutch figures for it. I have tried to get some reference's regarding modern Dutch Camouflage uniforms, but no luck.

Looks good sofar, keep us posted on your progress!


Groeten
Henk
faze4
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 10:35 AM UTC
Henk,

There are some modern dutch figures available, take a look here:

http://www.coelianmodels.com/coel135/Coelian%20Models%20homepage3.htm

Jan-Willem it looks like you are missing some stuff on the rear ramp (tow cable)

Do you have a drawing with measures of the generator box?

Maybe some Close-Up pictures for a better look
Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 11:21 AM UTC
Thanks Jaap, I will order some of these soon, and the Leopard crew will be just in time for Christmas :-) . Many thanks for this link. I didn't know that the Dutch army now use the M16.

Groeten
Henk
janwillem
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 07:18 PM UTC
ok,

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I wish you had included some closeup (macro) shots of your tie downs and such


This is the best close up I can get with my camera

I,ve also made a clamp (don't know how it's called) for the driver's hatch.
for the tie downs I just used styreen rod.

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Also, I'm not overly impressed with the kit supplied Tamiya tracks, but I'm also not sure whether the added expense of the MK track set is worth it. Since you've done a side-by-side, what do you think?


I found the kit tracks bad so I am al for the aftermarket tracks, but they do cost a lot and in the end you don't realy see that mutch of them (hmmmmm why did I buy them )

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Have you, or do you, plan to add an interior?


I'm not going to o an interior, but I heard you can use the interior of a M-113 (but that will need a lot of work)

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Wat camouflage scheme are you going to use?


I'm going to use a camouflage schem I found here http://www.panzerbaer.de/colours/index.htm
it also has them for the YPR try looking there

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What about the actual generator


I'm going to cover it mostly but I did make one
but you won't see mutch of it when it's finished.
Sorry that not al the photos are that good (I need a new camera) hoop this answers you're questions
Jan-Willem


faze4
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 08:14 PM UTC
Jan-Willem,

The tracks for this vehicle are Diehl tracks,
It looks like your using the old tracks
or are the pictures not that clear?
janwillem
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 08:26 PM UTC
I'm using the old tracks, coul'dn't find the new type tracks
faze4
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 08:50 PM UTC
Jan-Willem,

You can use this tracks from AFV-club



You can buy them at Mol Plastic Modelbouw
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