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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 12:18 PM UTC
what is this vehicle, this picture is a MFR picture, i'd like to know what the jeeps are in the immediate front.
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 01:22 PM UTC
They look like land rovers.

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 01:48 PM UTC
In the Photo I think the Marine Flag is the tip that leads you to the identification of the vehicle.

Try this one...



Note what is the same..

#1 front end very flush across but in your pic a front bumper guard has been added

#2 Turn signals mounted on top of the fenders.

#3 Air intake on the right fender behind the turn signal

#4 basic bumper has the same shape and size

#5 insterment panal above steering wheel has same rounded shape.

#6 the hood shape and how it sets a bit raised from the fenders is the same

#7 Roll Bar arangement appears to be similar but not 100% sure under all the gear.. just seems that way to me.

The Marine Corp's Interim Fast Attack Vehicle (IFAV) is a DaimlerChrysler model of the Mercedes-Benz MB 290 GD 1.5 ton truck off-road vehicle built as the Wolf Gelaendegaengige Kleinfahrzeuge {small all terrain vehicle} for the German Bundeswehr. First deployed to a US Marine unit in November 1999, the IFAV replaces its early 1980s counterpart, the M-151 Fast Attack Vehicle, which previously served as a smaller attack version of the humvee. Of major importance to Marine commanders is the increased offensive power the IFAV offers. A primary advantage of the IFAV is its ability to be transported internally by Marine Corps’ workhorse aircraft, to include the CH-46 Sea Knight, CH-53 Sea Stallion, and in the future, the V-22 Osprey. Other improvements to the IFAV have made it far superior to the M-151 in most respects. The M-151 didn’t quite have the mobility, speed, or durability to get Marines into the environments they will need to be in during the 21st century. The M-151’s tendency to tip over as well as the fact that it used flammable unleaded fuel, made it a safety liability. Run by safer diesel fuel and equipped with greater handling ability, the IFAV appears to be tailor-made for the Marine Corps.


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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 01:55 PM UTC
Still looks like a landrover though. :-) :-)

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 01:59 PM UTC
okies just found another picture showing the same spare tire arrangement as in your photo and the same shape of the additional front bumper guard as in your pic.


Marines from the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit's Command Element check out the new Interim Fast Attack Vehicle (IFAV) with which the MEU will deploy during its next deployment.

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 02:06 PM UTC
I think the M-B engineers took a Land-Rover Wolf and altered the corners a bit... L-R has spare wheel in same place..
But what is the 'flying saucer shape' above the drivers position? Some kind of GPS aerial? In the first pic some vehicles have it on the bonnet.

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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 02:26 PM UTC
thanks guys
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 02:35 PM UTC


whaaaa?... .......Marines are driving Mercede's now!?!............man, can't help singing an old song I used to know {by Dylan}....." The timesssss, they are, a, chan-gin'..."

Tread.

Just one last query.......are they chauferred?.....
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Posted: Friday, October 29, 2004 - 02:58 PM UTC

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whaaaa?... .......Marines are driving Mercede's now!?!............man, can't help singing an old song I used to know {by Dylan}....." The timesssss, they are, a, chan-gin'..."

Tread.

Just one last query.......are they chauferred?.....



marines...chaufures...well thats an idea now aint it, maybe they hired some army boys to do that :-)
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Posted: Friday, November 05, 2004 - 11:34 AM UTC
QUOTE:
old song I used to know {by Dylan}....." The timesssss, they are, a, chan-gin'..."


Not just Dylan but Joplin too....

.."Oh Lord, won't 'ya buy me, a Murr-say-dees Benz..."

When's the Tamiya kit come out??

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Posted: Friday, November 05, 2004 - 12:21 PM UTC
Just an FYI the BIG truck in the back is a MTVR (Medium Tactical Vehicle Replacement) AKA the Mk. 23 made by Oshkosh Truck


(they seem to be the New "only" big truck supplier to the USMC) as they're also working on a Improved Mk48
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 09:29 AM UTC
Man, I'd love to shoot that double .50 in Delberts picture. Mechs picture would appear to be a Marine unit of what, battalion size? Looks like a Force recon btn. to me. Still, a very cool picture indeed.

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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:28 PM UTC

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Man, I'd love to shoot that double .50 in Delberts picture. Mechs picture would appear to be a Marine unit of what, battalion size? Looks like a Force recon btn. to me. Still, a very cool picture indeed.

Jeff




yes that is a Marine Force Recon Battalion (OOH RAH!)
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