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What is washing?
TsunamiBomb
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 09:27 AM UTC
Well the question is the title. What is washing? I know there is the white wash for winter tanks. I know how to do that. but with regular washing im stuck . How do you wash? Thank you for your time guys.
RockinChaz
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:55 PM UTC
Ok, Go buy some dark color oil paints. Next thin it down to it is very diluted. Take old brush. Dip in fluid. Put on Model. Remove excess.
slodder
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:57 PM UTC
A wash is a basic detailing process. It is used to get dark colors into shadow areas.
one way of doing a wash is to thin down a dark color (Black or Burnt umber). I use oils for washes so I use thinner and a bit of paint. It is very much like ink vs. paint.
I will some times put a layer of gloss to help with capilary action.
Then I dip a thin brush into the paint and then tap it into a crease, nook or crany or edge of a detail where I want a shadow. The thin paint will fill in all the low areas and get pulled around by capilary action.
I do this all over an AFV, at weld lines, hatch covers, pioneer tool latches, inside corners where two 'walls' meet. etc.
Another version of a wash is sometimes refered to as a filter. This is where you use the same thinned paint, but instead of being selective and putting paint in nooks and crannies you apply the wash with a larger wider brush and cover the whole panel, and as you go from panel to panel the entire AFV ends up being covered. This will tonedown the overall color the AFV and leave the shadow paint in the nooks and crannies.
I use a combiniation of both a selective wash and a filter wash sometimes to tone down and pop out shadows. Or do a filter with brown and a wash with black.
one way of doing a wash is to thin down a dark color (Black or Burnt umber). I use oils for washes so I use thinner and a bit of paint. It is very much like ink vs. paint.
I will some times put a layer of gloss to help with capilary action.
Then I dip a thin brush into the paint and then tap it into a crease, nook or crany or edge of a detail where I want a shadow. The thin paint will fill in all the low areas and get pulled around by capilary action.
I do this all over an AFV, at weld lines, hatch covers, pioneer tool latches, inside corners where two 'walls' meet. etc.
Another version of a wash is sometimes refered to as a filter. This is where you use the same thinned paint, but instead of being selective and putting paint in nooks and crannies you apply the wash with a larger wider brush and cover the whole panel, and as you go from panel to panel the entire AFV ends up being covered. This will tonedown the overall color the AFV and leave the shadow paint in the nooks and crannies.
I use a combiniation of both a selective wash and a filter wash sometimes to tone down and pop out shadows. Or do a filter with brown and a wash with black.
ACHTUNG
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 01:29 PM UTC
excellent post
because im wondering about filter too
when u use filter, do you use black or burnt umber color as well ? and ehther the application of it the same like washing ? i mean wipe the recess with tissues ?
because im wondering about filter too
when u use filter, do you use black or burnt umber color as well ? and ehther the application of it the same like washing ? i mean wipe the recess with tissues ?
slodder
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 03:10 PM UTC
With a filter you can use either color - just depends on how you want to tone the overall color. A brown will dirty it up and a black will give it a duller shadowier look. I've used both on separate models and both on the same model.
I use a soft bristle brush and put a thin layer over the entire kit and I do not take it off with tissue or anything.
Recommendation - Thin more than you think you'll want to. You can always add a second layer/coat if you don't get enough color on it. If you don't thin enough it'll be a beast to get the excess color off.
Hope I've answered your questions - ask again if not.
Cheers
I use a soft bristle brush and put a thin layer over the entire kit and I do not take it off with tissue or anything.
Recommendation - Thin more than you think you'll want to. You can always add a second layer/coat if you don't get enough color on it. If you don't thin enough it'll be a beast to get the excess color off.
Hope I've answered your questions - ask again if not.
Cheers
PvtParts
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Posted: Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 04:11 PM UTC
I cant agree more with Scott. Less is always better. You can always add a bit more..but taking away to much is a bear. Start off slow and do selective areas at a time. Let it dry and look at it the following day. The most important step I am learning from the folks here at Armorama is patience. And it is the toughest thing to master.
ACHTUNG
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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 12:40 PM UTC
what colour can i use for drybrush ? is that the same like washing ?
if i use germany gray as a final coat, what is the proper color for the drybrush ?
cheers
Ricky
if i use germany gray as a final coat, what is the proper color for the drybrush ?
cheers
Ricky
slodder
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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 12:49 PM UTC
washes bring out the lowpoints
dry brushing is used to bring out the high points
You'll use a lighter color than the base. Some people use white or buff. I believe it depends on the base color. You can mix a lighter tone of the base by adding white to it. You can also use aluminum or steel color to both bring out the high spot and to represent paint wear.
Again - work slow and get almost 99% of the paint Off the brush before you start. Add it to the kit gradually. More thin coats are better and more realistic than one heavy one.
dry brushing is used to bring out the high points
You'll use a lighter color than the base. Some people use white or buff. I believe it depends on the base color. You can mix a lighter tone of the base by adding white to it. You can also use aluminum or steel color to both bring out the high spot and to represent paint wear.
Again - work slow and get almost 99% of the paint Off the brush before you start. Add it to the kit gradually. More thin coats are better and more realistic than one heavy one.
ACHTUNG
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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 01:48 PM UTC
wow, thats quck response Scott
Thanks for everything
Thanks for everything
slodder
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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 02:35 PM UTC