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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 07:05 PM UTC
Hello friends:

Here some pics of my work in progress with Photoetched in exhaust pipes, protectors, rear boxes and the Jack.













My report-page


Regards,
Rodolfo

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Posted: Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 10:19 PM UTC
Nice PE, you're building a Panther or am I wrong?

Grt
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 05:30 AM UTC
Yes, to me that looks like a Panther,
I have the Dragon Model "A" late, Would this one be used in the campaign, and if so, how would I go about using the proper marking for that time period..
And if it were not used during this time frame, would a Stug III G be used.
I have Both models are new Dragon kits, I would like to use either one but I am at a lose in which one would be more promonent during this period and what markings to use as well.....
Can some one direct me to a web site, book that will cover these basic questions.....

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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 06:42 AM UTC
This could be a Jagdpanther as well; Judging by the exhaust that would be an early (or possibly mid)version. And judging by the plastic color it is a Tamiya kit. For much of the lower hull, Tamiya has simply tossed in a sprue from their Panther G late kit (it includes the chin-mantlet).

Thomas

Ofcourse the Panther A would be used at that time, at least the ones that remained. Just as the Panther D. As you might know, IIRC the DML Panther A "Late" has all thee pieces in it to build an A "Early". The Stug III G was used as well... (sPJ Abt 654 had early model Jagdpanthers serving with almost undamaged zimmerit (at least that is the way it looks) untill March 1945).

The Concord publ. Ardennes book has a colorplate of a StuG IIIG with waffle zimmerit in three-tone cammo. It belonged to 15th Panzer-Grenadier Division.

Now going from pics in the Concord booklet:

Panzer A: Possible 1st Co. SS Pz Regiment 12 (location of possible drivers visor in glacis plate obscured by foliage, at least it does not have a chin mantlet (which is a G feature). Possible 1st Co. SS Pz. Regt 1. I see a few other possibles... the vast majority of the Panthers shown are, however Panther Ausf G, both with and without the chin modification.

The Schiffer campaign booklet (nr 5). Has a pic of a number of Panther Ausf D detraining in the Eiffel, according to the caption in preparation for the offensive. If correct, chance is that the Panther A, both early and late versions, were present as well.

The StuG III Ausf G is also featured regularly in the pics, both the early and late version.

I hope this helps a bit, and good luck with your model,

Harm
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 07:58 AM UTC

Dear Harm;
Thanks for the wealth of information...
I will look up the book mentioned from Concord ..
I will be looking for your contrabutions to this campaign..

thanks.....
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 09:07 AM UTC
Tobar,

this is a link to a review on Perth Military Modelling Site: http://pmms.webace.com.au/reviews/vehicles/dragon/dr6168.htm.

As far as the Jagdpanther goes, I actually have the kit myself (just as the Panther A "late")... and basically in parts myself. I simply hope that mine will come out half as good as Rodolfo's. Our your model...

I like doing the research (the amount of books is steadily outpacing the increase in shelf-soace), up to a point that it starts interfering with building, or writing papers...
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 09:27 AM UTC
Hello friends:

Thanks for your comments and interesting explanations!. The Jagdpather is of my favorites, but in this project I am working with the Panther Ausf G Steel Wheels / 1-SS Panzergruppe Peiper - La Gleize, Belgium. Please click on my banner for to see the accesories that I will use in the kit:



DutchBird I know that you will make an excellent work

Regards,
Rodolfo

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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 06:30 PM UTC
Hello friends:

Here more pics with photoetched in front mudguards, visor and grids. Here I am cutting the frontguards to replace for photoetched











Regards,
Rodolfo


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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 08:39 PM UTC
nice work, the engine deck looks great!

keep up the good work !
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Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 07:07 PM UTC
Thanks for your comments friend!

Here more pics completing the rear deck





Regards,
Rodolfo


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Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 02:41 AM UTC
Hi Martin:



I sent you a private message with the code.

Regards,
Rodolfo
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Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 06:26 AM UTC
Hi,

Thanks, but I still don't manage to get this image in my signature......(I thought you had a banner in your signature, but maybe you just posted these banners ) "

I thought that if I entered this code in the - "URL for Signature Image" - I would get to see my banner in my signature...but I don't see it! That's why I send you the message! to ask how you did this, but now I see you don't have your banner in your signature...)

Hope the english is somehow understandable, thanks for the help!

Grt
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Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 08:42 AM UTC
Hello Martin:

I sent you a private message with some explanations about this. Your English is good.

Regards,
Rodolfo
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Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 10:00 AM UTC
Ok thanks.....now that I am on antoher computer(at school), I can see my signature image....at my onw computer I can't see it...strange!!

Well, it seems to work on other computers, so now we can continue with your work in progress :-)

Grt,
Martin
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Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 03:38 AM UTC
Yes, I can see your banner too. Here I added photoetched in the tools and rack-tools









Regards,
Rodolfo



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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 05:43 AM UTC
Hello friends:

I finished to build the Panther, I am working in the wheels and soon I will to paint and make the weathering.

















Regards,
Rodolfo




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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 09:03 AM UTC
Hello Rodolfo,

that is an very goodlooking build... and a sick building speed I have to say. Just one question: Did you solder the PE-parts, or use glue ?

Cheers,

Harm
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 09:25 AM UTC
Wow looking real good! I love your Panther already, can't wait to see him after the paintjob!!

Keep it up !!

Martin
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 09:56 AM UTC
Looks really good so far "almost" a shame to cover it all in paint.
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 10:37 AM UTC
haha indeed :-)
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Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 11:17 AM UTC
Really nice work. It is a great step by step. I can't wait for the next pics too.

I also would like to see another works, that have here in Armorama, in this style: Step by Step.
I think a new section in the forums could be created, "Step by Step", where all modelers were able to show their models while in construction, if they want. I also think it will be very useful. How about?
So, here it is my suggestion for the bosses.
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Posted: Monday, November 15, 2004 - 09:02 AM UTC
That's looking mighty fine

Looking forward to see the finished model
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Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 06:36 PM UTC
Thanks for your kind comments friends!. I finished the Panther and please see the another post for the pics. Thanks again!

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R:-H egards,
Rodolfo
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