Hey all-
Does anyone have good ortho drawings of the Stryker? I was hoping to scratchbuild one and, while the shape is apparent, I have no idea what the correct measurements should be. Also, if someone could help with a link to pics of loadouts, details of the slat armor, and close-ups of every part of the vehicle, it would be greatly obliged.
Kyle
P.S. I already have the walkaround hosted here saved to CD. Thanks Vodnik for posting them.
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 07:46 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 08:11 AM UTC
Hey Kyle, just caught your post about Strykers...Here's a couple good links to try, and maybe you can get your hands on an Army Technical Manual for some really good info. and drawings..I'll keep looking...
http://www.army.mil/features/stryker
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker
Gunny
http://www.army.mil/features/stryker
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker
Gunny
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 08:48 AM UTC
I have some drawings of a LAV III TUA. Although not a Stryker, the hull shape and dimensions are the same. i also have the tire profile infor. Send me your snail addy if interested.
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 10:53 AM UTC
Mark, thanks for the links. I can't get the army-tech site to work though. I think that I will try and get the TM although I am not sure about how much success I'll have.
Paul, thanks for the offer. Check your PM box.
Keep the stuff coming people, you've come through in the past.
Kyle
Paul, thanks for the offer. Check your PM box.
Keep the stuff coming people, you've come through in the past.
Kyle
Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 12:01 PM UTC
What is the TM number I can probably access it through my military account. I can usually get to the unclassified pubs, so long as they're digitized. If I can get at it I'll download it.
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2004 - 01:36 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I have some drawings of a LAV III TUA. Although not a Stryker, the hull shape and dimensions are the same. i also have the tire profile infor. Send me your snail addy if interested.
Paul - may I humbly ask for a copy of the LAV-III drawings as well? I woudl love to scratch build a Canuck LAV-III.
Thanks and cheers - Dan
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Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 12:42 AM UTC
Thanks for the offer, John. Unfortunately, I have no idea what the TM number is.
Kyle
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Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 01:06 AM UTC
I searched the Army-Technology website and didn't find anything on the Stryker. I think the link is gone.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 01:13 AM UTC
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I have some drawings of a LAV III TUA. Although not a Stryker, the hull shape and dimensions are the same. i also have the tire profile infor. Send me your snail addy if interested.
I would be QUITE interested in these drawings as well!
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Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 01:50 AM UTC
Hey Kyle, I'm still in search of a valid Technical manual for the Stryker, come real close a couple of times but no go yet...Did find this VERY interesting batch of info and pic's though....
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/iav.htm
Check it out Bro...
Gunny
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/iav.htm
Check it out Bro...
Gunny
Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 01:58 AM UTC
The TMs have all been moved to a website and are apparently not available on-line. There are also a number of them available on CD-ROM... A lot of once upon a time links went dead and the sites migrated to a more secure server when AKO3 went up and running.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 03:13 AM UTC
Also if you can't get the links to work the first try, wait a day or so and try again. AKO has a habit of going down every few days.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 06:00 AM UTC
Thanks agian Mark. The pictures off of the link will make a nice supplement to the the Stryker walkaround hosted here. John, that is a bummer to hear that the TMs have been moved. Do you think if I contacted General Dynamics or the Stryker project lead then I could get one of the TMs? Thanks for the continuing help everyone.
Kyle
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Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 07:02 AM UTC
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Do you think if I contacted General Dynamics or the Stryker project lead then I could get one of the TMs?
Not likely..... I'm sure it's been moved for Security reasons. (IE all the Hits they've taken in Iraq)
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Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 10:49 AM UTC
I know, it's the Stars and Stripes...and it's a form of propaganda...but, I found this positive article about the Strykers in Iraq. "It's like our LandHelicopter..."
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=25422
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=25422
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Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:46 AM UTC
I don't think the criticism ==FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW AFVS== was on the Stryker "can't/ won't work," per se, but the idea of taking a perfectly good LAV 3 and stripping off the turret, 25mm gun, and modifying it so that it can stuff into a C-130.
Now the Army wants to uparm the Stryker somehow, someway, which seems pretty darn obvious considering what they did to it. This is like the LVTP7 with just a .50-cal turret before upgunning to AAV standards with MK-19 COAX.
The article seems to be "dumbing down" the complaints, saying wheels are no good and the U.S. Army LAV idea is no good and so on. Heck, the Marines love their LAVs, so why would a U.S. Army LAV be any different? I think the article missed the boat on the real complaint of, "Is the Stryker better than a LAV 3?" because only the U.S. Army has the Stryker, NATO and the Saudis have the LAV 3s with 25mms. Readers should NEVER forget what a LAV is...a Swiss MOWAG LAV is with a turret and 25mm. The Stryker is but a modification of the LAV, but it sure is not called the LAV because it isn't.
I briefly glanced at the article. Whoever these naysayers and critics are, I wonder if they have a clue who the Stryker's parent (LAV 3) is and what it can do.
For sure the Stryker can't do things the LAV 3 can, like shoot 25mm or have a AA MG and COAX too. The LAV 3 can be uparmored to 30mm protection front, 14.5mm AP elsewhere, with basic armor being 7.62mm. So the Stryker's 14.5mm AP all-around armor is not too special a feature because it is add-on too. Yup, both have eight wheels, so too does the USMC LAV 25mm.
I see that the naysayers were Stryker soldiers so maybe my opinion above is irrevelant since I'm talking about the journalist and maybe young Pentagon critics who think the Stryker is a bad idea on a performance-base issue.
Now the Army wants to uparm the Stryker somehow, someway, which seems pretty darn obvious considering what they did to it. This is like the LVTP7 with just a .50-cal turret before upgunning to AAV standards with MK-19 COAX.
The article seems to be "dumbing down" the complaints, saying wheels are no good and the U.S. Army LAV idea is no good and so on. Heck, the Marines love their LAVs, so why would a U.S. Army LAV be any different? I think the article missed the boat on the real complaint of, "Is the Stryker better than a LAV 3?" because only the U.S. Army has the Stryker, NATO and the Saudis have the LAV 3s with 25mms. Readers should NEVER forget what a LAV is...a Swiss MOWAG LAV is with a turret and 25mm. The Stryker is but a modification of the LAV, but it sure is not called the LAV because it isn't.
I briefly glanced at the article. Whoever these naysayers and critics are, I wonder if they have a clue who the Stryker's parent (LAV 3) is and what it can do.
For sure the Stryker can't do things the LAV 3 can, like shoot 25mm or have a AA MG and COAX too. The LAV 3 can be uparmored to 30mm protection front, 14.5mm AP elsewhere, with basic armor being 7.62mm. So the Stryker's 14.5mm AP all-around armor is not too special a feature because it is add-on too. Yup, both have eight wheels, so too does the USMC LAV 25mm.
I see that the naysayers were Stryker soldiers so maybe my opinion above is irrevelant since I'm talking about the journalist and maybe young Pentagon critics who think the Stryker is a bad idea on a performance-base issue.
Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 01:10 PM UTC
These nay sayers have apparently never ridden in one/lived out of one. I've said it before, The Marine LAV-25 hull is supposed to be able to withstand a 155mm shell detonating 10 meters away (now that came from my platoon commander one scorching hot day at Camp Dogwood). Not too long after that we got ambushed with 4 155 shells in a daisy-chain right near ELM (that lovely facility that's been in the news about the missing explosives), one detonated right beside the platoon commander's LAV, it trashed the commander's sight, we had a scout who suffered a ruptured ear drum, but the crew along with the rest of the platoon were able to pursue and capture one of the ambushers, as well as continue with the mission we were on at the time. Strykers are as able to do their job as wells the Marine LAVs can do theirs. The people who bash the vehicle need to get out with them and see exactly what they can do in a combat environment, because we all know that is the real test of a vehicle/weapon system.
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2004 - 05:28 AM UTC
Hey White4doc, when were you at Camp Dogwood? I was in the Army MSE unit across the street from 1 AD/3 ID Div rear building. I was there from July '03 until November 03. We left for BIAP after they shrunk the camp. Were you in the LAV unit that was pulling QRF?