Hi all,
Culled from a newsgroup and thought it might be of interest....
"Subject: New British Armour
From: "Zeronet" [email protected]
Date: 8/19/02 11:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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http://www.news.telegraph.co.uk/new...19%2Fnmod19.xml
'Electric armour' vaporises anti-tank grenades and shells
By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 19/08/2002)
An electric "force field" for armoured vehicles that vaporises anti-tank
grenades and shells on impact has been developed by scientists at the
Ministry of Defence.
The "electric armour" has been developed in an attempt to make tanks and
other armoured vehicles lighter and less vulnerable to anti-tank grenade
launchers such as those used by the Taliban and al-Qa'eda fighters in
Afghanistan.
It could be fitted to the light tanks and armoured personnel carriers that
will replace the heavy Challenger II tanks and Warrior APCs in one of the
two British armoured divisions.
The ubiquitous RPG-7 anti-tank grenade launcher can be picked up for a mere
$10 in most of the world's trouble spots but is capable of destroying a tank
and killing its crew. When the grenade hits the tank, its "shaped-charge"
warhead fires a jet of hot copper into the target at around 1,000mph. This
is capable of penetrating more than a foot of conventional solid steel
armour.
The new electric armour is made up of a highly-charged capacitor that is
connected to two separate metal plates on the tank's exterior. The outer
plate, which is bullet-proof and made from an unspecified alloy, is earthed
while the insulated inner plate is live.
The electric armour runs off the tank's own power supply. When the tank
commander feels he is in a dangerous area, he simply switches on the current
to the inner plate.
When the warhead fires its jet of molten copper, it penetrates both the
outer plate and the insulation of the inner plate. This makes a connection
and thousands of amps of electricity vaporises most of the molten copper.
The rest of the copper is dispersed harmlessly against the vehicle's hull.
But despite the high charge, the electrical load on the battery is no more
than that caused by starting the engine on a cold morning.
In a recent demonstration of the electric armour for senior Army officers,
an APC protected by the new British system survived repeated attacks by
rocket-propelled grenades that would normally have destroyed it several
times over.
Many of the grenades were fired from point-blank range but the only damage
to the APC was cosmetic. The vehicle was driven away under its own power.
Prof John Brown, of the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory, which
developed the Pulsed Power System at its R&D site at Fort Halstead, Kent,
said it was attracting a lot of interest from both the MoD and the Pentagon.
With the easy availability of RPG-7 rocket launchers "it only takes one
individual on, say, a rooftop in a village to cause major damage or destroy
passing armoured vehicles", he said.
But the use of electric armour, which will protect against all shaped-charge
warheads including artillery and tank shells, would reduce the threat to
zero."
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 01:57 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:11 PM UTC
Pretty cool stuff. I would like to see some pictures of this stuff. It would be nice for our AFV's and APC's to be a little better protected. I didn't know that a rpg could do that much damage. They are more advanced than I thought unless I am confused about what they are talking about but when they said you can get them for $10 I am pretty sure it's the cheap thing on a stick used by the taliban and in blackhawk down. That thing can go through 1 foot of steel? Can someone clearify that, doesn't seem right to me.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:15 PM UTC
I tried to go to the address in the original post but it took me to an error page. If anyone knows where to find out more about this stuff please post it here for me to follow.
Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:17 PM UTC
Interesting stuff. Here is a good page on the RPG-7.
http://www.g2mil.com/RPG.htm
1 foot?? Does seem a little unrealistic.
Jim
http://www.g2mil.com/RPG.htm
1 foot?? Does seem a little unrealistic.
Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:54 PM UTC
Shaped charge warheads have great penetrating power against standard RHA (rolled homogeneous armor). That is why Cobham armor (Challenger II & M1 Tanks) have ceramics incorporated - to defeat the penetrating jet. However, this armor is very heavy.
The RPG-7 is an improvement over the RPG-2, used in Vietnam, which is an improvement of the German WWII Panzerfaust!!!!! In Vietnam, M48s and M113s could survive multiple hits from RPGs as long as nothing vital was hit, particularly ammunition, as diesel fuel is hard to ignite. The early M113 gassers were especially vulnerable to HEAT rounds.
RPGs and mines are the primary reasons you see the infantry riding on top of their M113s and the gunner riding on top of the M48 turret or on the back deck, in Vietnam War photos.. An RPG penetrating the tank turret or APC hull sprayed the interior with molten metal and armor fragments, things for which the human body not designed However I have read reports and seen pictures of M113s and M48s that took multiple RPG hits and kept on fighting, all depending on where the round impacted. There are stories of the jet stream going in one side and out the other of M113s and nothing was hit on the inside. The holes were plugged and welded and the APC put back in action. Most tanks damaged by RPGs were back in action in less than 48 hours.
This concept, if it will protect against multiple RPG/LAW, etc. small caliber HEAT rounds, impacting in the same general area without shorting out the vehicle's electrical system, will be an outstanding achievement. The larger warheads and multiple HEAT warheads of larger AT-weapons like Javelin and TOW are probably too powerful to defeat at this time and meet light vehicle weight desried.
The RPG-7 is an improvement over the RPG-2, used in Vietnam, which is an improvement of the German WWII Panzerfaust!!!!! In Vietnam, M48s and M113s could survive multiple hits from RPGs as long as nothing vital was hit, particularly ammunition, as diesel fuel is hard to ignite. The early M113 gassers were especially vulnerable to HEAT rounds.
RPGs and mines are the primary reasons you see the infantry riding on top of their M113s and the gunner riding on top of the M48 turret or on the back deck, in Vietnam War photos.. An RPG penetrating the tank turret or APC hull sprayed the interior with molten metal and armor fragments, things for which the human body not designed However I have read reports and seen pictures of M113s and M48s that took multiple RPG hits and kept on fighting, all depending on where the round impacted. There are stories of the jet stream going in one side and out the other of M113s and nothing was hit on the inside. The holes were plugged and welded and the APC put back in action. Most tanks damaged by RPGs were back in action in less than 48 hours.
This concept, if it will protect against multiple RPG/LAW, etc. small caliber HEAT rounds, impacting in the same general area without shorting out the vehicle's electrical system, will be an outstanding achievement. The larger warheads and multiple HEAT warheads of larger AT-weapons like Javelin and TOW are probably too powerful to defeat at this time and meet light vehicle weight desried.