A few days ago I asked about the colors used on german stuff during the end of the war. I was at my LHS and found that there are massive choices of yellows to choose from.
So I was wondering what Model Master # should I get, or a Tamiya # or Humerall # is the best choice so I can accurately depicked my model for the Battle of the budgle campaign.
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German Yellow Question ?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 03:20 PM UTC
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 03:31 PM UTC
Tom, I have answered your PM regarding this question
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Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 05:16 PM UTC
heres a post i started on your same question.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/36742&page=1
cheers
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/36742&page=1
cheers
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 05:36 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 01:33 PM UTC
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Yeah and what a furball that turned out to be ! :-) heres a post i started on your same question.
Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 01:50 PM UTC
Problem is, there is not really a 'German Yellow' as such. Dunkelgelb was the standard base color, but it came in different shades. In the later stages of the war, when the Germans ran out of resources, German vehicles were painted in what ever was available, even house paint if neccesary.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 01:55 PM UTC
absolutley spot on Henk
i believe with ww2 german afv colours = if it feelsright then do it! it should be as free as that!
i believe with ww2 german afv colours = if it feelsright then do it! it should be as free as that!
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 02:48 PM UTC
i use polly scale panzer dark yellow f505111
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 02:57 PM UTC
Hey Henk,
So with the house paint, would these be applied with a brush? If say one wanted to apply winter camo to a Panzer grey Tiger with a brush and you could see the ends of the brush marks, would this be accurate?
The reason I ask is on that Tiger I asked you about earlier, I am contemplating doing an Eastern Front version
Cheers,
BT
So with the house paint, would these be applied with a brush? If say one wanted to apply winter camo to a Panzer grey Tiger with a brush and you could see the ends of the brush marks, would this be accurate?
The reason I ask is on that Tiger I asked you about earlier, I am contemplating doing an Eastern Front version
Cheers,
BT
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 03:54 PM UTC
White camo was applied with whatever was available - brushes, brooms, mops, by hand, or even bucket fulls of paint just thrown on the tank. This last would have left a lot of splashed and runny paint. Even chalk was scribbled onto the tank.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 04:52 PM UTC
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White camo was applied with whatever was available - brushes, brooms, mops, by hand, or even bucket fulls of paint just thrown on the tank. This last would have left a lot of splashed and runny paint. Even chalk was scribbled onto the tank.
Thanks, Biggles. So "controlled sloppiness" would be one way to approach the application of the winter cover?
Also - were any tanks used in winter transported from the Afrika Korps? Would it be accurate if a DAK tank appeared underneath winter cover?
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 05:09 PM UTC
For the original question, I use a 50/50 mix of Tamiya Desert Yellow and Dark Yellow.
I think most of the guys here answered your winter wash question.
For me, I use either white oil paint, pastel chalk or acrylic paint washed with a little detergent.
Angela
I think most of the guys here answered your winter wash question.
For me, I use either white oil paint, pastel chalk or acrylic paint washed with a little detergent.
Angela
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:51 PM UTC
angela has a good point ,White oil paint is really nice when removed from raised surfaces (like it just wore off)for winter camo, i used it a few times ,works well .
,and i have toyed with the idea of doing the scribbled chalk with a chinograph pencil ? hmm maybe ?
as for d.a.k. tank in winter wash ? i dont think it wouldhave still been in its desert livery ? i know paint was scarce but i guess they would have painted over the palm tree symbol? maybe some one else knows better?
,and i have toyed with the idea of doing the scribbled chalk with a chinograph pencil ? hmm maybe ?
as for d.a.k. tank in winter wash ? i dont think it wouldhave still been in its desert livery ? i know paint was scarce but i guess they would have painted over the palm tree symbol? maybe some one else knows better?
Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:15 PM UTC
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Also - were any tanks used in winter transported from the Afrika Korps? Would it be accurate if a DAK tank appeared underneath winter cover?
I doubt it. Tanks would not be transported from Afrika to Russia just for the hell of it. I am not a Afrika Korps expert, but if the Germans managed to retrieve any tanks after the defeat in the desert, they would have been painted over before being re-issued. But then we also have to consider the fact that in 1943 the Base color was changed from Dark Grey to Dark Yellow. Dark Yellow is similar to the color that Afrika Korps vehicles were, so maybe they were not painted over?
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Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 02:50 AM UTC
Here is a article with some info on the German paint schemes.
http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/articlepub/SApaintpt1.htm
http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/articlepub/SApaintpt1.htm