_GOTOBOTTOM
Armor/AFV
For discussions on tanks, artillery, jeeps, etc.
Pictures of modern armor periscopes
drewgimpy
Visit this Community
Utah, United States
Joined: January 24, 2002
KitMaker: 835 posts
Armorama: 388 posts
Posted: Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:54 PM UTC
Hello again all. I am trying desprately to reproduce the reflective surface of modern armor periscopes. At one angle they are one color, and a different color at another angle. What I would like from my friends here are some good pictures of the different colors that they have at the different angles. I have found a few on the web and some books but could use some better close-ups.

Also is ther ever a time when the reflective surface isn't casing off different colors, and if so, what color would the periscope be at that point? Basically the natural color of it in not so many words. Thanks for the help all.
Sabot
Joined: December 18, 2001
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
Posted: Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:42 PM UTC
Modern vision ports, periscopes and optics have a lazer defracting coating on them. When the light hits it, it has a pinkish-orange reflelction. A friend took some photos of the back of my M3A1 and M2A2 Bradley. The A1 did not have the coating and the A2 did. I'll see if he can e-mail them to me and I'll try to get them uploaded.

Coating prevents a lazer from being used as a weapon. Emit the lazer towards enemy positions and the vehicle's own optics would transmit the blinding lazer light to the gunner's eyes.
sgtreef
Visit this Community
Oklahoma, United States
Joined: March 01, 2002
KitMaker: 6,043 posts
Armorama: 4,347 posts
Posted: Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:49 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Modern vision ports, periscopes and optics have a lazer defracting coating on them. When the light hits it, it has a pinkish-orange reflelction. A friend took some photos of the back of my M3A1 and M2A2 Bradley. The A1 did not have the coating and the A2 did. I'll see if he can e-mail them to me and I'll try to get them uploaded.

Coating prevents a lazer from being used as a weapon. Emit the lazer towards enemy positions and the vehicle's own optics would transmit the blinding lazer light to the gunner's eyes.



Is this coating applied to the glass or is part of the glass? I am lost on this one
Sabot
Joined: December 18, 2001
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:00 AM UTC
It is a part of the glass that is manufactured this way. Looks like a pinkish-orange mirror finish, almost like a cop's shades.
Trackjam
Visit this Community
Ontario, Canada
Joined: April 12, 2002
KitMaker: 831 posts
Armorama: 614 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:00 AM UTC
The colour is from an optical coating. if you have a modern set of binoculars you will see something similar. To simulate it, try using remnants from colour negatives.
drewgimpy
Visit this Community
Utah, United States
Joined: January 24, 2002
KitMaker: 835 posts
Armorama: 388 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:50 AM UTC
In some of the pictures I have seen they also often have a blue or purple shad to them also, maybe thats when light isn't hitting them. That may be more common with range finders or other weapon systems glass. Is the blue/purple more common on those than the vision ports? I have been testing a lot of things trying to duplicate it and I feel I am getting pretty close, just need some better pics to make sure I get the colors right, or as close as possible. Thanks for the replies.
ARENGCA
Visit this Community
Arizona, United States
Joined: February 13, 2002
KitMaker: 382 posts
Armorama: 267 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:50 AM UTC
This is a very difficult finish to replicate. I have seen a passable effort using Tamiya clear colors, and I plan to try it that way myself. The color change that you get from different angles is virtually impossible to duplicate in scale, I think. My impulse is to just choose a color you like, and duplicate it using dyed Future or Tamiya clear colors.
 _GOTOTOP