Hey guys, My first days progress on My "Red Devils" vignette. I am planning on doing an interior for the building. I havent painted the dead figures boots or his rifle. I also did what you guys told me to do for taking pictures. All thats left to do is paint the other figures (which are in the mail) and finish interior of building.

WOW, Sorry about the pictures guys. LOL I tried a new site. If its a problem with the Admins of the site dont be afraid to take them off.

WOW these photos are huge! You really wanted to show off the details, heh? Ha, ha...

As far as the vignette itself, I think so far it looks outstanding. One thing I would recommend is to drybrush a bit more to bring out some of the raised details. Keep up the good work.

large pics definately. Check your figure too, looks like his face is a little too glossy, but it might be the camera flash. Good start. "Q"

Nice job so far. I like the way you used a very vertical element in a short area.
Couple of comments. I would like to see some more smaller rubble, kitty litter kinds, mortar and floor material and of course lots of dust and gunk. The figures flesh tones are a bit to clean at this stage, don't forget to dirty them up.
I would add broken glass too.

did you buy that all in one piece or did u make it yourself?

I posted the pictures to get comments of what I can change, if its good, or if you dislike it. I do not want silly questions concerning if i have all the peices to finish the project. It took me all day to build and I would like it if someone was kind enough to take maybe 2-3 minutes to reply with their comments. Same with my Ardennes Dio, that took me a month to complete and I only had 7 comments back giving simple answers. That to me is being rude, On armorama I comment on everything that I can answer or comment on. Even if the diorama isnt very good, I still support the person to continue to build dioramas and I am anxious to see what he will come up with his next dio. Please guys, do not let me ever post somthing like this again. I am just asking for a cent of common curtisy.

Harrison,
I'd ask you to re-read the posts, there are serious comments and a serious question in there.
I would
1. Drybrush
2. Add more rubble
3. Add some wooden beams from the floor
4. Add some glass (clear styrene or actual glass from a broken christmas light bulb)
5. Tell us if this was scratch or a kit.
6. Tone down the flesh with some dullcoat and pastels.
7. Enjoy your work - this vignette is fine, and nicely done

Harrison,
FIrst the Little Vignette is looking good. I agree you need more rubble and Dust...LOTS of
dust. Get in there with the oil wash and get the streets and rubble. Drybrush so that the details will
POP out at you. Try some Pigment powders or Pastel chalks for that dusty look.
Now secondly. I can understand your enthusiasm in your work and you want to have as much feedback as
possible. But, you can't make people respond to your posts.
Calling people names will not get you very far in today's world.
Instead be happy with the response that you have gotten
so far and thank the folks that took the time to respond to you. Whether you like the sort of questions they ask or not.
That is common courtesy.,
it works both ways my friend. Keep working at the vignettel you getting there.
Cheers,
Bryan
P.S, it would be great if you could maybe edit the size of your pics in the post. they are kind of hard to see.

Yeah i feel the same way about my posts when you dont get the posts you are looking for but you can't say that it is the peoples fault for not posting on your topic. It is as much the posters problem as it is the responders. If you were to commenting about my question not being helpful or the overall replies, you should respect the people who, as said earlier, spend time to look at your work and reply to it. The reason this site works is because everyone has respect for eachother no matter what their skill level is. So threatening people to reply to your post, or suffer a nasty-gram is not the way to act in a respect driven site.
just my thoughts
ian

i wasnt asking whether you have all the pieces to finish it, rather i was asking whether the vignette is one piece with the soldier molded into the rubble. please dont call people who write about your work silly. Have some respect and courtesy

Dear Harrison May
As u well know i have been kind enough to answer all the questions that u have done to me in pm's or forums concerning dio techniques and the likes. Thus i think i can say a word on your post.
Try to be patient and calm when laying your work under other peoples eyes, and leave them the time to comment and response. Not all people are in a good mood everyday to response, and all of us sometime we make posts that have few or even none answers!!!!
Sp try to be gentle and even humorous if u think that some post is not in your likes. Armorama members have always prove that even in difficult situation sense and friendship can rule and we can have nice results. Thats just a friendly advice, for helping u imporve over the Armorama procedures.

On your vigniette. I have to agree with comments that were done by Scott - Slooder, and especially make u pay some attention in dry brushing , and pastels using to show a real life feeling more than a fresh painted scene.

I believe that u have the technical skills to make succesfull dioramas , but u have to improve on the Patience skill.

Just my 1 euro

Your friend
Costas

I like the little dio. Nice and compact. But what more can I add.
The 4 posts directly before your demand for common courtesy, have recommended dry-brushing to bring out detail, toning down the glossy face, weathering the dead skin tones, adding rubble/dust and a question asking if this was a complete bought piece or a scratchbuild.

You have posted twice ... firstly you realised that the pictures were too big but didnt bother deleting them and reloading the adjusted size. Then you talk about common courtesy and slam the previous remarks as silly.

Maybe if you want answers or opinions you could ask the questions. When I looked in earlier and saw the previous answers, I couldnt think of any other points, so I didnt respond. I felt the few necessary points were made. I dont see the need to re-write the same points again. It doesnt mean I didnt take the time to look, or didnt appreciate what you have done here. You have stated that one whole days work has gone into it and it deserves more. I have posted and have seen lots of images where weeks or months work have been dedicated and not recieved as much. Maybe you should check in the diorama forum and see how many hits your thread has (222 at the time of writing). We all love seeing others work and chip in when the need arises or if we can add something.
I hope you understand what I mean .... thats my cent of common courtesy!

Firstly, let me respond to your initial post:

1. The position of the figure: Unless the soldier fell out of the window, or ran into the wall :-) I rather doubt he would be lying in such a position. He also appears to have been "neatly" arranged, limbs all straightish and by the side. I am also sure the rifle would not be too close to the corpse and certainly not perpendicular to his position. I also think the helmet is a bit too uniformly attached to his head. Depending on how long he had been dead, troops from either side would also have "reapproprated" his gear (ammo belt, Y-belt, watch... get my drift).
2. Rubble: I agree with the lads. you need more rubble and things look a bit too arranged for now.
3. Painting/Finishing: I can't comment on the painting as the camera may not always give a good depiction and I am also using a notebook at the moment with a poor LCD screen. I am sure Slodder, Major_Goose and the lads have pointed all the painting points out anyway.

I'm interested to see the finished dio, as this looks like a fantastic start.

Now, secondly, your other post...

I find your comments in extremely poor taste and I certainly hope this is only due to you having a very very bad day!! I have found all the above comments fair and constructive. If someone asks you if the figure is store bought or scratchbuilt, answer him/her. It may give the person more inside into you dio and lead to other constructive critisism. Comments like "I only had 7 comments back giving simple answers. That to me is being rude" and "do not let me ever post somthing like this again will only lead to folks not wanting to review your work, and then you are the only loser. And we don't want you to be the loser; we want not only you, but all who use this site, to benefit from both seeing your work and from the comments thereto related, not matter how small and insignificant they may seem to you.

Now, having given you more than 2-3 minutes of my time, I hope to see more good work from you and I also hope that you look at my work that we both my benefit from each others trials and tribulations.

Best regards

Rudi Richardson

Tarok the figure came attached to the base. This is the "Red Devils" vignette. I could possibly cut him out reposition him then sculpt new body parts. But I am a fairly new modeler(started the beggining of last summer) I just dont think I am capable of doing that yet. But yes you brang up a good point



lol, I am sorry about that. I was having a pretty bad day also. I saw someone else post the topic about it, and decided I wanted my opinion to add on with him. It is also my maturity level. I may not be as mature as you nice senior citizens because I am only 15. But I will try to tone it down a little and not blow my load as much.




Well, I got my pictures uploaded from a different website that I have never used before called www.imageshack.com . I uploaded the pictures I wanted you fellas to see that I couldnt upload on this site due to my picture being over the 600mgp limit. I do not know how to adjust the size to the pictures. Although I do not feel I was slamming anyone in my post. I was simply stating my opinion.



Yes I did as a matter of fact. But I have never painted british and I hardly know about the camo they used. I decided to buy some 101st Airborne figures off www.greatmodels.com . I have hardly ever even painted an american figure. For I have only painted 1 sherman tank and a small Tamiya figure. I did not feel I was ready mentally and physically (

hey Harrison. Everybody will try to help in their own way. Sometimes us "senior citizens" have wives, kids, jobs, life, etc to tend to, and as you had already recieved some good answers, maybe the usuals hadnt the time to chip in. Getting stressed wont help the situation.
Keep showing your work and if you are unsure ... ask specific questions. That way you will get the answers you want or need.
Remember .. nobody wants to be labelled a rivet-counter .. so being new to the site/hobby ... nobody wants to pick your work to pieces either.
Good luck with the rest of the dio .. keep us posted.

Harrison,

About the photo's and file sizes.
I do not know which programm you use to edit your pic's, but this is the fairly standard way of re-sizing and saving pictures. I take it that you download your photo's from your camera to your computer via a (USB) cable or card reader and open a folder to view the pictures. From there you need a editing program like Adobe Photoshop or something, a simple program usually comes with your camera (on a disk).
Rightclick on the photo to be re-sized and hover the cursor over the 'open with..' command. This should show a list of programms in which you can open the photo. click on your choosen program. (In my case that would be 'Photoshop', but if you have bought say a Fuji camera it might be 'Finepixviewer' or similar).
The choosen program will start and the picture open, ready for editing. From the commands choose 'Image', from the options choose ' re-size', and in the box which then opens the size of the picture will be the original size. Such as about 1600 X 1200 for a 2 MP picture.
change the size to 750 X 560. This is the actual size of the photo. Now for the size of the file, which is where the limit for uploading lies. After changing the size of the picture you click O.K. The picture will now change in size (on your screen). Now click on the 'File' command, click on 'save as..' , and in the box which comes up, name your picture ( choose a different name if you want to keep the original sized pic) and click O.K. Now a box will come up which will allow you to choose the amount of compression whith which to save the picture. This may be called compression or ' picture quality' or something similar. Choose a low setting, usualy in 10% steps or on a sliderscale. try some settings until you end up with a file size of between 60 and 120 kbs. These are large enough for internet viewing, but small enough for downloading.


Henk