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Mk 19 Grenade Launcher
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 09:48 PM UTC
I've been looking at the Revell M109A6 Paladin kit. and it comes with a Mk 19 AGL comprising 8 parts. If you wanted it would be simplicity itself to transplant it onto a different vehice.
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 02:47 AM UTC
Strange choice to fit an howitzer with a grenade launcher as close defense weapon. I personally would use a MG, it seems more suitable in this role and would be of greater use in an anti-aircraft role.

As the kit itself is concerned, what is the difference between Revell Paladin and Italeri one ? Which one does deserve being built ?

olivier
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 02:58 AM UTC

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As the kit itself is concerned, what is the difference between Revell Paladin and Italeri one ? Which one does deserve being built ?



Revell kit is a rebox of Italeri model. Only decals are different - better in Revell kit. But Revell kits are often more expensive.

Pawel
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 03:36 AM UTC
From what I've seen, a battery of Paladin's will have a combination of Mk-19s and M2s. The M2 originally was for anti-aircraft purposes with a secondary role of a close-in defense system (this concept has been around since WWII with the M7 SPGs). Since air superiority has yet to be contested for a long time, close-in defense and mopping up what ever may come their way has taken the fore front. A Mk-19 is especially useful if a car is speeding towards your unit with the intention of not stopping (though an M2 is more useful a taking out the engine block). It makes for a very convincing warning shot to say nothing of a lethal system.

Jeff
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 11:29 AM UTC
I have the Italeri kit and would like to build it over the Christmas holidays. Anyone any pictures of Paladin's in action during IOF. I think we Brits and the US both use them, but i dont know if the Brits had any over there this time around. What extra detail sets are available for this kit.

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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 12:46 PM UTC
The Brits have never used the Paladin. They have one of their own mobile guns called the AS-90. Trumpeter makes a kit of it. Pretty nice too.
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 04:31 PM UTC

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The Brits have never used the Paladin. They have one of their own mobile guns called the AS-90. Trumpeter makes a kit of it. Pretty nice too.



This is true, however, British did use M109 series howitzer up through M109A3/A5 till mid 1990's, it was replaced by the AS-90.

Here is M109A6 Paladin in Iraq.



And one from B/1-41 FA that burned up in Iraq due to a cracked breech.


Lots of Paladin pics here: M109A6
Happy modeling.
Sapper131
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Posted: Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 10:45 AM UTC
Hiya.
This is true, Boxtree do a fantastic reference book called Operation Granby, which is packed with hundreds of colour pics of british armour used during desert storm. Its got some excellent pics of British M109s in action and refers to British M110s that were deployed to the gulf at the time. I didnt even know we used M110s.

Regards.
Nick
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Posted: Friday, December 17, 2004 - 02:18 AM UTC

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Anyone any pictures of Paladin's in action during OIF



Have a look at Don Busack's great website Primeportal.net :
http://www.primeportal.net/m109_iraq.htm

Talking about aftermarket stuff for the Paladin, there's a PE set from Eduard (#35319). The AFV Club/Skybow set of M109 tracks is NOT suitable for the M109A6 (Paladin tracks pad is different and the guiding tooth on each link has been moved backward IIRC...)

HTH
Frenchy
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