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Dull Coat
AutoFix
Joined: July 16, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:31 PM UTC
I need to know if I can airbrush on a dull coat and if so what should the % of mixture of dull coat to thinner be. Also do I need a dull coat thinner or can I use normal airbrush thinner?
Folgore
Joined: May 31, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:39 PM UTC
It depends what you are using. I use Testors lacquer dullcote and spray it through the airbrush. I thin it slightly with lacquer thinner and then clean the airbrush with that thinner.
Nic
Nic
Pieter
Joined: August 14, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 02:20 PM UTC
To your question...
If the dullcoate is in a can you want to mist it 6-8 inches away that way it will not give you a grainy finish. Also practice on a scape model to see if you have to spray closer.
If the dullcoate in a bottle. I ususally thin it with mineral spearits. If not on hand I use airbrush thinner. I usually airbrush it on at, "don't quote me on this" 25-30 psi. usually in that range. I move fast lay a thin coat, let that dry then hit it again.
Hope this helps. happy modeling.
If the dullcoate is in a can you want to mist it 6-8 inches away that way it will not give you a grainy finish. Also practice on a scape model to see if you have to spray closer.
If the dullcoate in a bottle. I ususally thin it with mineral spearits. If not on hand I use airbrush thinner. I usually airbrush it on at, "don't quote me on this" 25-30 psi. usually in that range. I move fast lay a thin coat, let that dry then hit it again.
Hope this helps. happy modeling.
sgtreef
Joined: March 01, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:39 PM UTC
Had to chime in cause I like all your Avatars guys 
Well I thin it 50% or more with just plain ole Lacquer thinner Dullcoat from Testors actually more on the side of 70% thinner takes more coats but oh well and keep an extra spray bottle filled of thinner so you can shoot that thru as you are waiting for the dullcoat to dry 
Welcome aboard Autofix mechanic by any chance
Well I thin it 50% or more with just plain ole Lacquer thinner Dullcoat from Testors actually more on the side of 70% thinner takes more coats but oh well and keep an extra spray bottle filled of thinner so you can shoot that thru as you are waiting for the dullcoat to dry Welcome aboard Autofix mechanic by any chance
AJLaFleche
Joined: May 05, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:49 PM UTC
Chepo Chepo modeler here. (At least for thinner) I use hardware store dollar a gallon thinner for just abouot all solvent needs. I'll fill my color cup about half with dullcoat and add 3-4 drops of thinner using an old eyedropper and stir. I like to get this to a water thin consistency. This has worked well for years using either a Pasche H or a Badger 150 airbrush.This works over oils, enamels, laquer (Floquil) or acrylics.
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screamingeagle
Joined: January 08, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 02:49 AM UTC
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It depends what you are using. I use Testors lacquer dullcote and spray it through the airbrush. I thin it slightly with lacquer thinner and then clean the airbrush with that thinner.
Nic
I have to agree with Nic & Jeff
..............Testors Dullcote is a Lacquer and should be thinned with a Lacquer Thinner.
I mix a 60% Dullcote - 40% Lacquer Thinner for brushing .........and 50/50 for airbrushing
Apply in 2 to 3 thin coats ............ wait 10 minutes between each coat whether your brushing it on or airbrushing.
- ralph
dencoarty12
Joined: June 21, 2002
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:11 AM UTC
Greetings all, I would like to recommend Poly Scale Flat Finish. #404106. It is an almost foolproof acrylic overcoat that dries dead flat it minutes. It is virtually odor-free as well. I thin it about 15% with Poly S airbrush thinner. The thinner is a toxic product so you want to use proper venting and a mask when spraying. Clean up is with soap and water. I love that aspect. The only issue is not to spray it too wet and heavy or it may cloud some. Several light passes do the trick. Once cured, the finish is hard and durable. Scott
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kkeefe
Joined: May 12, 2002
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2002 - 05:26 AM UTC
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Greetings all, I would like to recommend Poly Scale Flat Finish. #404106. It is an almost foolproof acrylic overcoat that dries dead flat it minutes. It is virtually odor-free as well. I thin it about 15% with Poly S airbrush thinner. The thinner is a toxic product so you want to use proper venting and a mask when spraying. Clean up is with soap and water. I love that aspect. The only issue is not to spray it too wet and heavy or it may cloud some. Several light passes do the trick. Once cured, the finish is hard and durable. Scott
I absolutely agree.... I even swear by it.
Thanks,
Kevin Keefe
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Folgore
Joined: May 31, 2002
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2002 - 05:52 AM UTC
Does Polly Scale also offer a gloss coat? And can it be thinned with alcohol or water like other acrylics?
The lacquer is similar in that it gives a good finish and dries very quickly, but it absolutely stinks when spraying, so I wouldn't mind trying something else......
Nic
The lacquer is similar in that it gives a good finish and dries very quickly, but it absolutely stinks when spraying, so I wouldn't mind trying something else......
Nic
kkeefe
Joined: May 12, 2002
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:32 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Does Polly Scale also offer a gloss coat? And can it be thinned with alcohol or water like other acrylics?
The lacquer is similar in that it gives a good finish and dries very quickly, but it absolutely stinks when spraying, so I wouldn't mind trying something else......
Nic
Yes, Polly S (not PollyScale) does offer semi-gloss and gloss. I swear by them as well, although I haven't used the gloss all that much. No smell, easy cleanup, fast drying, just about drinkable too. I have never thinned them with anything other than the PollyS Thinner so I can't help you out there, but I would A.S.S.U.M.E. that good old clean tap H2o would work fine.
Thanks,
Kevin Keefe
Mortars in Miniature
dencoarty12
Joined: June 21, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:38 AM UTC
Greetings,
Along with the Flat, PolyScale bottles a clear gloss and a semigloss which I like as a varnish for figures skin. Slight sheen like perspiration. You can thin with water, but alcohol can react badly with PolyScale. I like the PolyS airbrush thinner for ah..airbrushing. Water is fine for brush and will work for airbrushing. I've also had nice results with Model Master Acryl Clear Flat and Gloss. Your nose and Nervous system will love you for the switch over to Acrylic. Scott
Along with the Flat, PolyScale bottles a clear gloss and a semigloss which I like as a varnish for figures skin. Slight sheen like perspiration. You can thin with water, but alcohol can react badly with PolyScale. I like the PolyS airbrush thinner for ah..airbrushing. Water is fine for brush and will work for airbrushing. I've also had nice results with Model Master Acryl Clear Flat and Gloss. Your nose and Nervous system will love you for the switch over to Acrylic. Scott
sgtreef
Joined: March 01, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 07:45 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Greetings,
Along with the Flat, PolyScale bottles a clear gloss and a semigloss which I like as a varnish for figures skin. Slight sheen like perspiration. You can thin with water, but alcohol can react badly with PolyScale. I like the PolyS airbrush thinner for ah..airbrushing. Water is fine for brush and will work for airbrushing. I've also had nice results with Model Master Acryl Clear Flat and Gloss. Your nose and Nervous system will love you for the switch over to Acrylic. Scott
I wonder why I have been so cranky lately yelling at the old lady now I can tell her it is the Dullcoat. I might try this acrylic stuff but as I have used dullcoat for as long as it has been around at least had jars and cans of it laying around. You said awhile back that if it is not applied in thin coats that it will dry cloudy am I correct in this? Question does it set fast in spray gun like acrylics do. This is the only thing I do not like about acrylics,plus the fact nobody around here sells it Polly S
dencoarty12
Joined: June 21, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:18 AM UTC
Greetings,
I have had few no with it drying and cloging the tip. I use an Aztec double action. A double action airbrush, (internal mix), works best with acrylic paints. Single action brushes dry the stuff on the tip quickly and result in frustrations galore. I tried to find an online source for you with no luck, I buy my Poly Scale locally at Caboose Hobbies. I noticed on the jar, for the first time, that the clear finishes are combustable, unlike the rest of the line. You could try Caboose Hobbies. http://www.caboosehobbies.com , even though they don't list poly scale in their online database an email may get something winging your way. the mfg. product number is 404106 for the flat. Scott
I have had few no with it drying and cloging the tip. I use an Aztec double action. A double action airbrush, (internal mix), works best with acrylic paints. Single action brushes dry the stuff on the tip quickly and result in frustrations galore. I tried to find an online source for you with no luck, I buy my Poly Scale locally at Caboose Hobbies. I noticed on the jar, for the first time, that the clear finishes are combustable, unlike the rest of the line. You could try Caboose Hobbies. http://www.caboosehobbies.com , even though they don't list poly scale in their online database an email may get something winging your way. the mfg. product number is 404106 for the flat. Scott
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