I know that I have been away from here for too long. Because of that, there are way too many non-critique replies to the subjects posted.

Perhaps a refresher is in order:

The Rivet Review Board forum has one two-fold purpose, to give and receive constructive critiques. A way for members to ask for assistance while they build their models. This means that the poster realizes that he/she is posting in the Rivet Review forum in order to receive help in the form constructive criticisms for his/her projects.
Also, that the responding persons are posting constructive criticisms for said persons projects.

There is no room for congratulatory posts in this forum. If you cannot offer any assistance or if you do not want assistance please do not post here.

Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.

Great post Ken. Well written!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Sorry ... not being rude.... just couldnt help myself

Ken?,....Ken?...I vaguely remember!..Someone jar my memory please! Welcome back Bro!

My critique: That kitty is having way too easy a time crunching that tank. He should have chipped a tooth or something by now ...

Hiya, Ken!

BTW, I agree. Too many seem to think the RRB is the Rah-Rah Board.

If I may make a suggestion, I would recommend sending someone a PM if you want to congratulate them. I know I always like getting PM's.

Nah, he's American made Bob.




A good suggestion Rob.

Oh the inhumanity of it......
No more flufferville......
Soon as I finish my current out of the box.... I'll post it for eveyone amusement..... Especially Ken's.... nice to see you return to base...... :-) :-) :-) :-)

While agree that people should want to accept helpful 'critique' on their projects.. As this helps us ‘grow’ as modelers. I don't understand this issue with saying 'nice job' about someone’s build...

People on this site constantly say how there is not an 'elitist' attitude, like some of the 'other' sites. But a rule like this seems like a very 'elitist’s' attitude. You make fun of someone saying nice job.. yet some people's 'critiques' look as if they're just adding something for the sake of following the rules..

Sorry.. just my two cents..

Charlie,

When I post in the RRB I try to review what I like about the build and what the builder could have done better. It is easy to do both. "I really like the way you did blah blah blah but I think you may want to blah blah blah."
That sort of thing.

Shaun

I agree Shaun.. but sometimes.. I just like a kit, and just want to say that.. don't want to 'make up some' critique.. just for the sake of having 'critique' in my post..

As I said... Critique is a good thing, it should be done right, with tact.. Also try to know the modeller before you do it.. so if it's a rookie or a young person, you really should just try encouragement.
but... just doing it for the sake of doing it.. and not being able to just say 'heck' of a job!... that's going in the wrong direction.

You know.. I once belonged to a club where a lot of builders stopped 'building' or 'bringing' kits.. due to critique.

Hi Charlie,
I believe the reason for posting here is to look for ways to improve ones work. So as the one posting they should expect that!I know for myself, if Im looking to just show my work, Ill put it in Armor, figure or what ever catagory it goes in. If I post here I do it because I want peeps to critique my work. Im not looking for " Nice work John"
I think if that is understood there should be no problems.


(my thoughts only0

First of all Ken, this thread of yours was LONG overdue.

Secondly, perhaps there should be a reminder as to just why the forum was created in the first place. It should (when it works properly) be a forum where you can receive constructive criticism of a recently completed piece of work. I have been reluctant to post in it for a few months because of the perception many have that it operates (as Bob so eloquently put i) as the 'Ra-Ra Board' . Better one good criticism than 500 "Best model in the Multiverse.." comments...Jim

I used to visit daily .. because I love to check out in prog pics.. and make comments when I see something I like...

Now I got to ML's Construction Thread.. WW2's Workbench and PA's Vbench instead...

I don't fear getting blasted if I say 'nice job' there.. and don't feel that I have to make some 'phony critique' in order to be inline (bear in mind.. I'm not against critique).. just the fact that you can't post without it..

I figure it's also a thread where you 'learn how to build' which is what these modeling sites are supposed to be about.... so if you can't say 'how did you do that' unless you at the sametime say.. I see a 'seam' here.... then I think a lot of people might not be learning..

LOL maybe I'm just asking for a 'workbench' forum!

I kinda see the point of the "rule" but, I also think the endorphin rush one recieves when they get positive comments about this build goes along way to help the modeler along with the kit and even more so on the next kit choice they decide upon...true that other's eyes can see things you may have missed or just don't know the correct way to do even if you follow instructions like this.... https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/528
it seems that the grille should be mounted flush to the vehicle and under the hood front instead of the spaceing he has given it...which from what another member to this site has told me is a common mistake made by many.
So, I see where the critiques can be very helpful, but I also see that a pat on the back goes just as far...

cheers...and ...perhaps there are other department on this site that are a waste of bandwidth...

kevin

I could have used that critique before I finsihed my Duece> Oh well, live and learn. I'll know next time. "Q"

I really can't see any reason for a discussion on this ....
perhaps simply following the instructions set for the forum since it conception on Saturday, September 21, 2002 is too difficult to follow and understand. Seems really simple to me....

To those posting:
1.Please don't post here if you aren't interested in hearing an honest opinion of your work from fellow site members.
2.The model should also be something in-progress. Prior to a final wash or other final weathering.
3.If you'd like to show off a completed piece I would be happy to include it in either the main gallery or the MSN gallery.

To those responding:
1.You are expected to provide real constructive criticism. You can say something looks good, but (as almost nothing is perfect) you'll need to also point out whatever elements you see that could use improvement or you find some issue with. Don't just say something is too "weathered", instead specify what areas are particularly causing you to say that.
2. Try to provide some ideas on how that aspect might be improved. We are looking for helpful comments here, not hurtful ones.
3. Flame-bait or other harrassing posts will be removed without notice.

IF YOU POST A SIMPLE CONGRATULATORY REMARK IT MAY BE REMOVED. Fair warning.


If and when I post something here, I personally would rather find out I have a part on backwards, upside down, or in the wrong location, (since my work hours prevent me from attending my IPMS chapter meetings, the only people who actually see my models are the members here) before I drive the 500 miles to a model show or contest, or submit it for an article or review someplace. I'd much rather have someone point out a silvered decal here than have a judge point it out there.....
I'd rather find out about a seam here, and any other problems here, and make my own decision on correcting it, and if I am able to correct it before the drive, judging, or display.
Just my .00002 cents on the topic.....
Now get out those digital rivet counters, compter color-specto-graphs, and digital micrometers ..... I should have one out of the box nearing completion, but before weathering sometime this week....... :-) :-) :-)