what are the stangest variants of the sherman?
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ShermanSam
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Posted: Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:49 AM UTC
hi there,
what are the stangest variants of the sherman?
this is something i like to know just for .
ShermanSam
what are the stangest variants of the sherman?
this is something i like to know just for
.ShermanSam
GSPatton
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Posted: Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:14 AM UTC
Do you have hours? The variants are endless. Get a copy of Hunicutts "bible" on the sherman. Every version is there.
There were composite hulls, cast hulls, welded hulls, 75mm, 76mm guns and turrets, the Jumbo, the crab, the fail and let's not forget the DD tanks which sank so galantly on D-Day.
There were calliopies, and other rockets, vertical and horizontal suspension. Wet or dry stowage, v-8 or radial engines - on and on and on.
The web is one of your best bets check out RZM.com an excellent sources of books military. So have at it. There's alot to read and see out there...
There were composite hulls, cast hulls, welded hulls, 75mm, 76mm guns and turrets, the Jumbo, the crab, the fail and let's not forget the DD tanks which sank so galantly on D-Day.
There were calliopies, and other rockets, vertical and horizontal suspension. Wet or dry stowage, v-8 or radial engines - on and on and on.
The web is one of your best bets check out RZM.com an excellent sources of books military. So have at it. There's alot to read and see out there...
Folgore
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Posted: Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:23 AM UTC
I've gotta say the Duplex-Drive (or DD) tanks GSP mentioned were pretty funny looking. They were designed for amphibious operations. I think that the British and Canadians had more luck with their "funnies" than the Americans had, as they played a major role in their success on D-Day.
Nic
Nic
ShermanSam
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Posted: Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:45 PM UTC
Hi there,
is there a model of the DD?
it doesn't matter in what , British USA or Canadian.
greets ShermanSam
is there a model of the DD?
it doesn't matter in what , British USA or Canadian.
greets ShermanSam
Folgore
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Posted: Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:14 PM UTC
I can't tell what it says, but I suppose you can. This is a diorama with a DD Sherman and the article is in Dutch: http://www.twenot.nl/duplex.htm
Hope it helps,
Nic
Hope it helps,
Nic
tedward
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Posted: Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:54 PM UTC
Have you tried the JED directory ?
http://www.jed.simonides.org/tanks/sierra/sherman_series/sherman-series.html
Maybe there has some information can do help.
http://www.jed.simonides.org/tanks/sierra/sherman_series/sherman-series.html
Maybe there has some information can do help.
TUGA
#034
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Posted: Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:21 AM UTC
Hi,
How about the M32 ?
or the BARV ?
How about the M32 ?
Photo at AFV Interiors site
or the BARV ?
Photo at REME Museum site.
210cav
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Posted: Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:40 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I've gotta say the Duplex-Drive (or DD) tanks GSP mentioned were pretty funny looking. They were designed for amphibious operations. I think that the British and Canadians had more luck with their "funnies" than the Americans had, as they played a major role in their success on D-Day.
Nic
Nic---nice job on the website. When I probbed it further, I found all sorts of superb Shermans. Nice workmanship.
thanks
DJ
shiryon
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Posted: Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:32 PM UTC
Lets not forget the funky IDF shemans. Like the shrike missle launcher called kilshon. or the cherry picker version to lok over the berms on the suez canal.It just goes on and on and on and........ you get my meaning .that sherman beastie is a hobby in and of itself.
Josh Weingarten
aKa shiryon
Josh Weingarten
aKa shiryon
acav
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:56 AM UTC
Wasn't there a prototype of a 'mine-proof' Sherman built?
I've seen a couple of photos somewhere about.
All I can say is, it looked like a Sherman on steroids, very fat and chunky with massively thick tracks and reinforced running gear - just gnarly..!
I've seen a couple of photos somewhere about.
All I can say is, it looked like a Sherman on steroids, very fat and chunky with massively thick tracks and reinforced running gear - just gnarly..!
210cav
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:18 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Wasn't there a prototype of a 'mine-proof' Sherman built?
I've seen a couple of photos somewhere about.
All I can say is, it looked like a Sherman on steroids, very fat and chunky with massively thick tracks and reinforced running gear - just gnarly..!
I have a photo of a USMC modified engineer Sherman which has some of those features. I''l dig it out tonight and post it.
DJ
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:20 AM UTC
The Israelis did some truly weird stuff with their Shermans. Armored (and armed ambulances) for example. A truly bizarre use was one in which the turret was removed and sealed then hull bottoms were welded to the sides and some hapless tanker had to drive this thing around for target practice! Find a copy of Warmachines' Israeli M-4 Shermans and Variants if you can.
slodder
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:40 AM UTC
And for my 200th post
I believe there was an AA version. It has a quad gun mounted in the turret for AA work. I like the previously mentioned 'mine proof' version - one big block of rolling steel!
I believe there was an AA version. It has a quad gun mounted in the turret for AA work. I like the previously mentioned 'mine proof' version - one big block of rolling steel!
210cav
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:42 AM UTC
Quoted Text
And for my 200th post
I believe there was an AA version. It has a quad gun mounted in the turret for AA work. I like the previously mentioned 'mine proof' version - one big block of rolling steel!
I think the Sherman AA system was a Canadian one ---- Grizzly comes to mind. Anyone have their Hunnicut Sherman at work and can check?
DJ
Kencelot
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:52 AM UTC
Quoted Text
And for my 200th post
I believe there was an AA version. It has a quad gun mounted in the turret for AA work. I like the previously mentioned 'mine proof' version - one big block of rolling steel!
Indeed there was an AA version. It was produced from the "Grizzly", which was the Canadian version of the M4. It was called the "Skink". It mounted four 20mm polsten cannons in a reworked turret. One of these actually served in Europe.
There is some great info on it here: Skink
210cav
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:36 AM UTC
Ken--I can assume that hummer smoked anything it fired on. Probably needed a fleet of trucks to resupply it.
DJ
DJ
slodder
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:40 AM UTC
I bow to the Masters - 210cav & Kencelot
You guys are right on. That's the one what I was thinking of.
Thanks guys. So many Shermans, so few brain cells
You guys are right on. That's the one what I was thinking of.
Thanks guys. So many Shermans, so few brain cells
Greg
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:15 AM UTC
The Sherman impervious to mines was a one-off test vehicle built as a mine-clearing test bed. Think Sherman tank perched atop a giant steel tricycle and you'll get the idea. The wheels were something like ten feet in diameter, so the view from the driver's seat must have been great. There's pictures in Hunnicutt.
Don't have pictures to post, but there's a strange Sherman in my neck of the woods. It's an antique log skidder, and only the VVSS suspension and cast transmission cover tell you this thing was once a Sherman tank. Big boxy hull with five winch reels and a little operator's cupola on top. Big Detroit Diesel engine. Huge tubular boom in the center, hinged to lie flat or raise vertically, with rigging that would do the Cutty Sark proud. I'm tryign to get information on it from the company that made the thing; it would make a very challenging project in scratch building.
Greg
Don't have pictures to post, but there's a strange Sherman in my neck of the woods. It's an antique log skidder, and only the VVSS suspension and cast transmission cover tell you this thing was once a Sherman tank. Big boxy hull with five winch reels and a little operator's cupola on top. Big Detroit Diesel engine. Huge tubular boom in the center, hinged to lie flat or raise vertically, with rigging that would do the Cutty Sark proud. I'm tryign to get information on it from the company that made the thing; it would make a very challenging project in scratch building.
Greg
ShermanSam
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:17 AM UTC
so many shermans so few brains
i agri whit scott. thanks everybody.
i'm going to look for some new model to buy on the next TWENOT meeting in Sneek.
greets ShermanSam
i agri whit scott. thanks everybody.
i'm going to look for some new model to buy on the next TWENOT meeting in Sneek.
greets ShermanSam
Kencelot
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:36 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Wasn't there a prototype of a 'mine-proof' Sherman built?
This is the "Mine Resistant" vehicle designated T15E1:
Here is perhaps the funkiest looking of all the converted M4's used as experiments! This is the "Mine Exploder T10" Only one was built...for testing of course.
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