I have searched the web for some time now looking for single link tracks that go to a Brazilian EE-T2 Osorio modern tank. Ive had no luck finding these tracks does anyone know if they even make single links for this awesome looking tank. If anyone knows can they please share the site with me. Another possible thing might be if anyone knows of another tank that uses the same or similar tracks to the Osorio.
-NERVRECK-

Hi Nervreck,
I didn't find out single link tracks made for the Brazilian Osorio. The closest working tracks that I 'd ever seen was the Trumpeter tracks for Chinese MBT - item #02004 :
Trumpeter Tracks for Chinese MBT

I don't try these tracks yet but after measurements and comparison, I hope that they can fit your Osorio.

HTH.

Thanks very much fbuis I think i might stick to my rubberband tracks , but thank you for replying, I just dont wanna risk buying them.
Cheers
-NERVRECK-

According to this site, Brazilian EE-T1 Osorio, they are German Diehl 570 tracks. According to th Army Technology site, http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/tracks/diehl/diehl2.html, the Diehl 570 tracks are used on the Leopard II, Leclerc, Challenger 2, Ariete II, and will fit on the M1and M60 as well. That should point you in the direction of other kit or AM tracks to look for. To me, they look very simmilar, if not the same as an M1A1/A2 T-158 "Bigfoot" track, which are available from AFV Club as indie link tracks.

Okay I thought the M1 tracks looked like them, Thanks for researching for me HeavyArty, So now I know which tracks to get.
-NERVRECK-

Hi there!
If could help I´d suggest you to read an small article I did when this kit was released.
If you like to know anything else, feel free to contact.
Follow the link: Osorio: The lost MBT
Hope to help!
Cheers
Paulo

Moderator edit-link fixed

Paulo Im sorry but your link doesnt work and I dont know how to fix it
-NERVRECK-

Dont' want to spit in anyone's Wheaties here, but the fact that Diehl makes tracks for a tank doesn't necessarily mean that the tank carries Diehl tracks in service. If you can get a hold of an example of a Diehl 570 link (try the HKCW or AFV Club Leopard II set) and compare it to the Osorio vinyl tracks, you'll notice they're substantially different. In fact the Leopard II, and possibly the Ariete II are the only tanks where the Diehl tracks is standard. The Challenger II uses British made tracks called the TR-60, and I believe the T-158 'Bigfoot' tracks are made by Goodyear. The Diehl 570 is way too wide for the Osorio.

If you visit Diehl's lwebsite you'll see that they they make tracks for pretty much anything that has them. The fact that Diehl makes the track in no way implies that any tank of that type has ever carried Diehl tracks in service. It's a bit like tire manufacturers - their tracks are standard on some vehicles, but they'll quite happily sell them aftermarket too if you want to replace the tracks on some aging MBTs.

However, if you're willing to accept similarities in track size and pitch and ignore minor details, the fact that Leopard and Leopard 2 tracks are both available as rather nice single link tracks from HKCW and AFV Club can be useful, since the 570s make a nice generic modern MBT track and the 840s for the Leopard I are pretty useful for quite a few older or lighter tracks.

Example - the Leopard I has carried Diehl 640A and Diehl 940A tracks. This can come in handy if you need single-link tracks for the Trumpeter Ariete C1, since it carries Diehl 840B tracks, and if you hold up the vinyl links in he Trumpeter kit next to the individual inks in the HKCW or AFV Club Leopard 1 tracks,, you'll see that they're the spitting image of them right down to the dent on the inside of the track pad. Yet Diehl also list other variations on the Diehl 840 as being suitable for retracking your T-62, T-72 or T-80, ideal for your Panzerhaubitze 2000.

I speak from experience here. HKCW's Leopard II Diehl 570 racks claim they're suited to the PzH 2000, which on one level makes sense, since the PzH 2000 shares a lot with the Leopard II. I dismissed the kit tracks as being undersized, and set about making the Diehl 570s fit. I don't know which was less fun - removing all details from the superstructure side and putting a 1.5mm shim in place along the entire hull side to move the skirts out, then recreating all of the hull side detail from scratch, or inserting a similar shim in the sprocket and idler wheels then removing and respacing the teeth.

I suspect if I'd done my research and discovered that the right track was the same as on the Leopard I and Gepard it would have been a much less painful experience and taken about a month less. However, since it gives me a chance to build another PzH 2000 sometime, and it's quite a fun kit, I guess you live and learn.

Oh, Diehl also claim that the 640/940 series is used on the AS-90. No they aren't, although I'm sure Diehl sell nice aftermarket replacements for them.

You name it, they got it, NATO, unaligned, or former Warsaw pact.

Looking at the vinyl tracks on the Trumpeter Osorio, putting Diehl 570s on there is going to cause you some serious pain. Simplest way to tell they're different is that the track pad on the Osorio is square, while the trackpads on tracks like the T-158 or Diehl 570 are rectangular and visibly wider. Closest thing I can see in single-link tracks is to get some HKCW or AFV Club Leopard I tracks - at a guess I'd say the Osorio used some variation on 840s or 940s. They're not *quite* right, since the Osorio track pads don't seem to have that slight indentation in them, but they're the same width and look to be roughly the same pitch., so they'll at least fit in the track run. I just hope the pitch is close enough that you don't need to rework the sprocket wheel, since that's a bundle of no fun.

Then there's the LeClerc. I'm sure they've got a 570P that'll fit, but if you look at the track pads on a LeClerc they've got a completely unique shape. I believe Phebus Creations used to make individual links for the LeClerc (and the AMX 30) but are no longer around. Unless the LeClerc has adopted the Diehl in the RT-6 version, I know of no single-link track for it. I'd love to be proved wrong on this, though, as the vinyl racks in the LeClerc kit are ghastly, and I'm strongly tempted to invoke the spirit of France-German co-operations and stick Leopard II tracks on it.

Oh, one other Diehl deal. The recent workable Marder tracks (Diehl 828 or 1028) released by Armour Workshop are also the right track to use on German M110s, German M578s, and German Jaguar tank destroyers and Roland AA batteries (all of which use the same basic chassis). However, at their current price of $42/set it's not a cheap Diehl. Sorry.

Hopefuly this has been of use to somebody.

Al