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Armor/AFV: Allied - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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M4 Sheman Lots of pics
Ibleedsteel
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 07:14 AM UTC
Hello,

This is my first post on this forum, so I figured I would introduce myself with a completed build.

This is a Tamiya M4 Early with AFV club Suspensions with Tamiya road wheels, Eduard PE, Verlinden and scratchbuilt stowage and Verlinden 50 Cal.

The Paint was Tamiya Acrylics, weathered with oil washes and oil paints.

Any comments and criticisms are appreciated.

Thanks for looking,










The starts of my Dio:

Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 07:34 AM UTC
Hi mate,

First of all, welcome to the Big-A. I'm sure you're gonna like it here!

Nice Sherman you've got there, I like it! Stowage, painting....all very nice. I've got 1 comment though: the tracks are a bit too silver. I'd rather make them more rusty like the spare tracks on the front of the tank.

Cheers,
Martin
MrRoo
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 08:15 AM UTC
That is very nicely done mate. Apart from the shiney tracks I would put some black staining around the end of the gun tube.

But the stowage etc really makes this one stand out. Thanks for sharing
M-60-A3
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 08:57 AM UTC
Ibleedsteel,
First, let me say welcome .
Very nice way to introduce yourself.
You've done some very fine work. Would agree with Martin. You need to tone down your tracks. You could leave some of the shiny finish on the guide teeth and drive sprockets. Still a very commendable job.
Thanks for sharing .
Joe
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:44 AM UTC
Very nice looking Shermie. Very cool detail work.

Steve
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:57 AM UTC
Welcome! As you can tell I like Shermans. You have a very nice build going there. The two things that stand out. One is the end of the tracks. I thnk there should be a little rust on the metal ends connectors. Also the rubber on the wheels should be a little more dirty. It could be the blurry pics but some of the shots look too clean to me especially pic 2 and 4
Delbert
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:27 AM UTC
very nice work on the stowage but I'll have to agree the tracks are too silvery and the painting on the roadwheels looks a look inconsistant. about the 6th photo down that shows the left side. the midle two roadwheels have brown paint all over the rubber.

all in all its a good build and shows off a lot of your talent..

beepboop
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:45 PM UTC
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I think that the "clean" tracks fit in very will in the context of the dio Ibleedsteel is making.

I often think we modellers fall into the "rusty" trap too easily. The WWII tanks we see, as a rule, are static and have been sitting still in a museum for years. In this case, the bare steel of the tracks has acquired a layer of oxide. If, as is often sadly the case, the tank is outside, rust can get pretty heavy over the decades. So, we get a picture in our mind that WWII vehicles were rusty things. In fact, exposed metal tracks are kept surprisingly rust-free on an operating tank. The endless motion and abrasive ground "scrubs" away any oxide that forms on the surface of the metal. The only thing that hides this "shine" is dust, mud or snow that may be a feature of the terrain that the tank is operating in.

Ibleedsteel has his shermie on a cobbled street, suggesting that it has spent some time street-fighting. So, the substructure wouldn't be covered with mud and the hard stone ground would keep the metal tracks burnished. There'd be dust from the rubble of destroyed buildings, and I think Ibleedsteel has shown this very well.

All in all, I guess I'm trying to say that it's always very tempting to over-weather, and I think that Ibleedsteel has done a great job in standing up to the lure of dark wash and rust pigment!
NERVRECK
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 01:49 PM UTC
Welcome to armorma. Now Iove your sherman , I just bought a Heller M4A3 but I cant build it until I finish the three models ive started , I agree with Beepboop about the tracks I think they are fine, but you can always fall into the "rust trap" if you want. I have to buy me a 50 cal. too, ill check that one out. Great build.
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Ibleedsteel
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:38 PM UTC
Thanks for all the comments. I did ver do it on the tracks, but as I go along with the dio, I hope to tone them down. I do want to show tracks in use in a street fighting scene, so perhaps a little shine would be ok.

I appreciate the comment about the incosistant paint on the road wheels, that has been rectified.

Again, thanks for all the comments. Better than expected considering my building skills.

Ted
Martinnnn
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:22 AM UTC
Seems to me there's nothing wrong with your modelling skills, don't worry about that

But I think even the best can still learn at this site. Once you show a lot of your work and you use the comments, you will see your work get's even better!

Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 07:41 PM UTC
Nicely done! Think the older M4s have more character and more things you can do to them...
Contentious re the blackening around the gun barrel- Have heard that there is NOT much residue from firing, and if anything it woiuld be grease stains from servicing... But who am I to know?!
Stowage at rear looks great, but think the glacis stowage looks too 'organised' and uniform. Maybe some 'offset' stowage to go with existing?
All in all, great start
Not bad getting a near complete tank on the site, considering I've been bumbling around for near on 2 years and beat you for pics (albeit only progressive shots!) by a couple of days!! :-)
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