This vehicle has been released years ago by Dragon as the AT version of the BRDM-2 (with AT4 or AT5 missiles).
I've read, somewhere I can't remember of, that the BRDM-3 was the recon version of the BTR-80.
Where is the truth there ?
If anyone has it, please feel free to share it

olivier

Hello Olivier,

It are (as far as I know) two complete different types of vehicles. Both vehicles where designed in the same period and needed to be amphibs.
Therefore they have some shared design aspects and techniques. Most recognisable is the front hull design.
But it is not true that the BRDM is came out of the BTR-80 or counterwise the BTR-80 is came out the BRDM.

Some nice info about (the upgrading of) these vehicles is published on the Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau site

PAUL

Hi Paul,
don't misunderstand my question. I'm aware of the differences between both vehicles.
My question is about the denomination BRDM-3. To me the AT version of the BRDM-2 is the 9P148.
I read somewhere (where ??) that the BRDM-3 name was for a recon variant of the BTR-80.
I hope I've been clearer.

However, thanks for the link.
olivier

Hiya Guys,

Olivier, I believe you became aquanted with the BRDM-3 fromt eh SP Designs conversion?

TO my understanding, you are correct. DML's BRDM-3 was never called that by the russkies, it was a DML or NATO designation. The REAL BRDM-3 is a prototype/low series production BTR-80 designed for deep recon work behind enemy lines. There is precious little info out on the web on the vehicle right now, I have been looking too... :-)

I served in these machines when I was in the army, mate. My personal vehicle was a BRDM2, but I had three's in the platoon I commanded as well.
The Russian designation BRDM means Boinaya Dozorno-Razuznavatelnaya Mashina, which translates in English as Recon-patrol fighting vehicle.
Any questions you have about them, don't hesitate to ask.

Hello Jacques,
I remember now where I first saw it ... in your website
I only hope Sergej has not dreamt of this denomination. Every BRDM-3 search I did on Google sent me to the AT version of the BRDM-2. Even in the Russian language sites is the BRDM-3 not mentioned.

I'll live with that anyway. Just wanted to know if DML were right or wrong like with the M1A1HA instead of HC.
Modeler nitpicking :-)

olivier

According to my alternate sources, a couple of people in the US DoD and also a arms inspector in Belgium, it is just another set of mis-identifiers...Like the T-74 tank. It also does not help that the russian Defense system seems to be trying very hard to disassociate themselves from any idea of failure now that they seem to be more in need of good defense sales.

Anyhow, the BRDM-3 may also just be a company moniker, or it may only be a prototype. I have heard it is in low-sereis production, but that does not mean it is true, especially since there is very little info onthe web about it.

However, there are many US systems not on the web as well...systems not intended for foreign sale.

The Brdm 3 was the sec gen Wheeled at vehicle, first introduced in 1977. It used all the same stuf as the brdm 2 however new 360degree pedestal mouting on top, this mounted 5 at5 FA GOT rockets, next gen at rockets, this design winning over the proven but old at4 sagger rockets. in short it was simpler, and had better characteristics. (if u wanna know more just ask m8).
Anyway the BRDM is totally a different vehicle to the btr 80, the btr 80 being the next version of the btr 70 with improvements (higher shooting capibility with the 14.5mm gun turret, larger center side doors etc).
the btr80 aimed at high menuverobility but capably of road movement at speed and comfort. In short the equivilent of the LAV 25, and the little brother of the bmp2 (not bmp 1 or 3 because of the same time of production)

i know i tend to waffle on (sorry lol) so now u know the btr 80 is totally different to the brdm with different chassis. both vehicles of the post war soviet military characteristics.

hope this is of some help

Nick.D 89_zero_89

Hi Nick,
I got your point and didn't mis-identify the BRDM series and the BTR80 series.
Even if they are resembling each other when looking at their front bow, I know they're totally different.

Jacques gave the answer to my question. The BRDM3 is the name given to the BTR80 recon version project which apparently never entered service.

BTW welcome at Big A and enjoy your membership.

olivier