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Verlinden Productions Humvee Tires
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 05:59 AM UTC
A sad news...
After finding that 1/35 resin tire sets in newer agressive pattern for Humvees are only available from European companies (with an average price range of $18-20), I emailed Verlinden asking whether they have any plans of making one. The answer disappointingly: "No, we have none in the works." Sad, sad... No American company wants to make it or what?
Maybe if enough of us complain to them, would they make it?
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:05 PM UTC
Verlinden has an OOP set...... Don't remember what the Number is off hand
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:34 PM UTC

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Verlinden has an OOP set...... Don't remember what the Number is off hand



You're thinking of v0589, which does NOT include the new "aggressive pattern" tires but old bias ply type. VP specifically emailed me back saying that they got no plan to make a new set.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:44 PM UTC
yeah... i have several AM sets laying around.... just don't remember which ones...lol
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 12:29 AM UTC
Most likely no US manufacturer wants to deal with the licensing issues for making a resin tire of a copyright design. Every package would have to have Goodyear's seal of approval.

An off shore resin manufacturer has a bit of a buffer because the tires would not be widely distributed in the US and the maker would be in another country, not necessarily susceptable to a nasty letter from a Goodyear lawyer.
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 07:26 AM UTC

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Most likely no US manufacturer wants to deal with the licensing issues for making a resin tire of a copyright design. Every package would have to have Goodyear's seal of approval.

An off shore resin manufacturer has a bit of a buffer because the tires would not be widely distributed in the US and the maker would be in another country, not necessarily susceptable to a nasty letter from a Goodyear lawyer.



Hmmm. Good point. I am gonna have to ask Verlinden Productions about this and see if that is the reason b/c I am thinking they can get around it by just not putting trademark, Goodyear, on their resin set.
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:16 AM UTC
Modern off road tire tread patterns are trademarked as well. It is not so much the logo/name on the side as it is the distinctive appearance of the tire iteself.
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:32 AM UTC
I guess that's called the trade dress issue.
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:58 AM UTC
I read in FSM recently that the International Model-Hobby Manufacturers Association is spearheading an effort to bring this marketing rights issue before Congress.Their argument is that since the hardware in question was developed and purchased with taxpayer dollars, military hardware supplier license requirements to model manufaturers is on shaky ground.
I don't know how this translates to the Goodyear logo appearing on the side of the tires, but it may make the tread pattern fair game for the manufacturers.
Mike Bass from Stevens International (a major wholsaler and importer of model kits) is the IMMA director. There's no information on the Stevens website (stevenshobby.com), about how this situation is going, and I can't find an IMMA website, but it sounds like an effort people should get behind.
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 03:09 PM UTC
Doubtful it would apply to the tires, they are basically regular off road pattern tires made to military specs (tougher) and not a military specific tread pattern like the old style Jeep or truck tires of yesteryear.
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