I am done with my model it's time for the final weathering this will be my 1st weathering project.
I have a few questions, do I clear coat the model 1st then aapply washes; or put the washes and decals on before clear coating.
I saw a post about how you can use mig pigments to add rust or dust and mud where you want to add it to. What amounts do you add without to much.Is it more pigment then oil or more mineral spirts and add just a real little of each.
Or add decals then clear coat and then washes and dry-brusheing.
You can see my problem I have there is so many methods that I am confused. And I respect the options of people on the Big A family.
Happy Modeling
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tom
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:36 AM UTC
keenan
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:52 AM UTC
Tom,
I can help a little.
You want to decal before you weather. If your model is flat (matte) you will want to put on a gloss clear coat before you put on your decals or they will "silver" on you and look like decals instead of something that was painted on. After your decals are on and dry, put on another clear coat to seal the decals. Then apply your wash. You have a bit more control of a wash over a clear coat.
So the sequence is something like this:
clear gloss coat
decals
clear gloss coat
wash
drybrush
clear flat (matte) coat.
Hope this helps.
Shaun
One more thing. I use acylics for all my base coats and oil base washes. If you use enamels (oil base) base coats watch what you use for your washes. "Hot" thinners like laquer thinner may attack your base coat and ruin your model.
I can help a little.
You want to decal before you weather. If your model is flat (matte) you will want to put on a gloss clear coat before you put on your decals or they will "silver" on you and look like decals instead of something that was painted on. After your decals are on and dry, put on another clear coat to seal the decals. Then apply your wash. You have a bit more control of a wash over a clear coat.
So the sequence is something like this:
clear gloss coat
decals
clear gloss coat
wash
drybrush
clear flat (matte) coat.
Hope this helps.
Shaun
One more thing. I use acylics for all my base coats and oil base washes. If you use enamels (oil base) base coats watch what you use for your washes. "Hot" thinners like laquer thinner may attack your base coat and ruin your model.
tom
Florida, United States
Joined: December 01, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 09:17 AM UTC
Thanks for that list it helps alot. I have been confused for awhile and now I have to finish my campaign or I wouldn't get my metal for finishing it.
Is there anything you know about mig pigments or chalks. I like how they add a realism. I like your idea about oils for washes they do add alot of colour changes when dry and you mix colours for fading. I read somewhere that they do a great job when tring to fade the shadow to the fading of paint.
Happy Modeling
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Is there anything you know about mig pigments or chalks. I like how they add a realism. I like your idea about oils for washes they do add alot of colour changes when dry and you mix colours for fading. I read somewhere that they do a great job when tring to fade the shadow to the fading of paint.
Happy Modeling
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:05 AM UTC
Tom,the pigments or pastels go on dead last,after the flat coat,for best results.If done before the last coating,they tend to disappear,or at best,mud up.
cheers!
cheers!
keenan
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 12:03 PM UTC
Tom,
I have only just started down the pigment path. I have been messing around with ground up pastels but I am by no means an expert. I do like the subtle effects, though.
Shaun
I have only just started down the pigment path. I have been messing around with ground up pastels but I am by no means an expert. I do like the subtle effects, though.
Shaun