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M1A2 Non-Slip or Non-skid?
Juggernaut
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:38 PM UTC
Im new to armor modeling, so bear with me guys. I want to make my tamiya m1a2 into an a iraqi theater deployed tank. I have it pretty much in hand but i need help with the non slip surface. Specifically where all to apply it and any suggested products or techniques to use in applicating it. Thanks
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:47 PM UTC
This diagran show where the non-slip coating goes:


Here is a link to a good technique by Vodnik:
Non-Slip Technique

Another option is the good old liquid glue and finger technique. Wet down about a 1" square at a time with some liquid glue, any brand will do. Let it set up a few seconds to soften the plastic. Next, dab your finger on the glue area multiple times to impart a texture on the surface. To smooth it out and remove the glue hairs, apply a light coat of liquid glue again. Pretty easy and it works great.
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:48 PM UTC
Welcome Juggernaut,
Go to Vodnik.net and look under features there is good article on replicating the anti slip coating, I am sure someone else can point you to a diagram on where to apply it if not there are plenty of shots of M1A1's on the net.
Regards,
Robert
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:49 PM UTC
Heavy arty you f'n rock, not 2 minutes after i make a post and youre on top of it. Thanks alot man. Have a fine Navy day
Burik
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 06:07 PM UTC
With apologies to Gino, I don't think the anti-slip is that basic as the diagram suggests. Around the driver's hatch there is a significant area that does not have this texture. Also, on the rear engine deck, around the two rear-most hatches some of the texture is not there either. It is too difficult to explain, but the DML kits have a good pattern. I think there was someone here a long time ago that had photos in their gallery showing the diagram over their model. Maybe someone can recall who that was.

I use Cast-A-Coat which I think is very simple. It is a very fine powder that is sprinkled on some sort of liquid adhesive that is first brushed on. I got mine at a show, but several on-line shops carry it and some hobby shops have it too.

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 12:12 AM UTC
These are acouple pics of an abrams I did last year. The areas I covered in the grey Mr Surfacer show where the anti-slip coating is applied to M1A1 AIM's when the come out of their refitting.


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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 12:33 AM UTC
Rather than using your finger as suggested above I'd reccomend using an old paint brush. A little less messy and better control in tight places. Just my .02 worth. "Q"
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 05:17 PM UTC

Quoted Text

With apologies to Gino, I don't think the anti-slip is that basic as the diagram suggests. Around the driver's hatch there is a significant area that does not have this texture. Also, on the rear engine deck, around the two rear-most hatches some of the texture is not there either. It is too difficult to explain, but the DML kits have a good pattern.



Bob,
No, the anti-slip isn't that basic, but it gives him something to go by, and a general idea. Your description is great too. Between us and the pics posted by BroAbrams, he should be able to square it away. Gotta love the teamwork here.
Burik
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 09:59 AM UTC
Gino, you are so right. My current superdetailed M1 could not have been done without the help of guys like yourself here at Armorama.
Juggernaut
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 02:06 PM UTC
Thanks guys, I now have a good idea on the non-slip. Now does anyone know where I can get the MR. Surfacer 500, my local hobbies shops dont have it. Also, Ive seen 2 examples now , one with an undercoat and one without, which would be better? Yes the teamwork on this site rocks!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 02:52 PM UTC
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