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Dioramas: Making Bases
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:45 AM UTC
I just managed to scrounge some Fix&Grout (a wall tile adhesive) off a mate, and was wondering if it would be anygood to use on a peice of wood as a base? Its sort of textured so it might work? any advice would be greatly recivied!

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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:51 AM UTC
There might be some trouble getting grout to adhere to wood. It might work at first but the moisture from the grout will be soaked up by the wood causing the wood to warp and the grout to cure too brittle.
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:55 AM UTC
ah i forgot to mention.. on the tub it actually says that if you use it on wood, to use a solvent based primer on it first, i dont actually know what that is (Im young and stupid), but i shall find out!
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 02:29 AM UTC
Ashley, just use some from of sealer, preferably an oil based sealer like polyurethane etc, on the wood before you use the grout. I have been using tile grout for years and it is the ticket for ground work. Easy to work with, comes in various colors and dries pretty quick. Another method is to use styrofoam as the base for the grout and once dry, mount the styrofoam on a nice wooden base thereby eliminating the warpage entirely. Hope this helps. "Q"
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 02:50 AM UTC
Ashley, since you are in the UK you could easily use (and get hold of) Unibond, from B&Q or Wilkies or somewhere like that. This would seal it and provide a good key to stop it coming off. Then again, added cost? It might be better to dump the grout and buy a big box of generic wall filler like B&Q's homebrand 'polyfilla'. This would probably work better and work out cheaper.

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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 03:13 AM UTC
The home brand pollyfilla stuff, does it come in a bag and then you mix it with water? if it is the me ma recommended it as she does dolls houses and usues it to make a thatched roof effect
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 03:21 AM UTC
Thats the stuff!


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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 05:16 AM UTC
Thanks for all your help. Any other ideas are welcome.. but fairly cheap ideas (not a lot of money this month)
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 07:55 AM UTC
Ashley If you use the wall filler get a bottle of cheap earth coloured acrylic from your local art shop squirt some in the mixture it helps eliminate any white spots that may show up. the paint is usually only 99pence a bottle.
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:19 AM UTC
Throw some old tea or coffee,the leaves and or grounds in the mix for color and texture throughout the mix.
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:59 AM UTC
Ive used tile grout many times for bases and it works well.Tile grout will bond to almost any suface,,but to make sure it bonds I quickly sand the wood base .If you add too thick of a base it could warp the wood so keep it thin[3/4inch} or use risers. Mixing white glue and sand together until its pasty like grout, can also make nice terrain and both can be painted. GOOD LUCK
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