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Dioramas: Techniques
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SAS007
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 09:31 AM UTC
Hello out there,
I'm just getting back into modeling after about 10 years but hopefully still not lost too much
I usually just do kits right out of the box but now want to try a Diorama :-)
Can anyone tell me the best way to put snow effect on a Dio.
Have figures and tank I want to do as if on Russian front.
Look forward to suggestions,
sas007
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 09:34 AM UTC
There are quite a few methods, but I like marble dust. It doesn't yellow like some methods will over time, and it actually has a sparkel to it, like real snow.
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 03:51 PM UTC
50/50 white glue and water and sprinkle soem baking soda over it

Frank
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 04:12 PM UTC
Woodland Scenics snow. Put down a layer of spray on glue and sprinkle the stuff on just like a real snowfall.

andy007
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 04:57 PM UTC
I second Francois method, but instead of a white glue/water mix I use hair spray to hold it down.
slodder
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 10:46 PM UTC
I use Woodland scenics snow
I have seen great baby powder dios, baking soda, marble dust is new to me.

The method will be the same though

build the up the diorama, apply your glue and sprinkle on the snow. If you want drifts, keep repeating the glue spinkle. Be aware - glue drys pretty flat so it will take a lot unless you build it up with something first. I have used styrofoam as a 'drift base' its white and light, then applied the whiteglue/water mix to it then spinkled on top of that.
Parks20
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 01:51 AM UTC
I like the woodland scenics stuff. I tried the baby powder once, and over time it has yellowed some. The ws snow has stayed nice and white. Good luck
Mech-Maniac
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 07:09 AM UTC
I put Elmer's white glue down and then use a sifter and sift baking soda over it for light snow, then after that, I use the spray hairspray, do not use the aerosol kind, I found that it blows some of the snow away, go and buy some White Rain hairspray in a plastic bottle. You dont have to worry about it yellowing, mine hasnt yet.

good luck, let us know how it looks
-Shain
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 12:53 PM UTC
I use Woodland Scenics Subterrain Foam Putty for snow. I mix a little water w/ it to thin it and spread it on with a brush dipped from time to time in water. There are two pix of a 1:35th wind swept snow scene, called "Not your ordinary Wine and Cheese Party" using the Subterrain Foam Putty. (My call sign is MiamiJHawk) It isn't necessary to use any form of glue or holding spray with this stuff. It sticks to what ever you spread it on. After it is dry, you can pile on some more if you need too.

However, it probably wouldn't work well for up in the trees, on the limbs.
Art
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 01:34 PM UTC
I use the same method as Mech Maniac. This is what it looks like finished (old pics-that's why it looks yellow).

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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 01:40 PM UTC
TreadHead
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 01:48 PM UTC
Question; Has anyone ever tried pulverized Epsom salt?

Tread.
Henk
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 04:07 PM UTC

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Question; Has anyone ever tried pulverized Epsom salt?

Tread.



First time I've seen that mentioned. What is Epsom Salt, is it like rocksalt? I like the pulverized part of it already.. might be good therapy... .

SAS007
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 05:55 AM UTC
Hi all

Thanks for all the tips , Ive got some time to decide what to do but hopefully will have a Dio done soon and will put it up 4 all to see.

sas007
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 05:58 AM UTC
I have tried baking soda and baby powder. Both turned yellow in a matter of months.
Mech-Maniac
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:45 AM UTC

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First time I've seen that mentioned. What is Epsom Salt, is it like rocksalt? I like the pulverized part of it already.. might be good therapy... .




Comes in a giant milk carton, put a little bit in your bath tub and it relaxes your muscles....great stuff

anyways, no I cant say that I have tried it, I'd imagine that pulverizing it wouldnt be as effective as say using mortar and pestil to grind it, I think that if you pulverized it, the chunks would still be to big and it would take longer to get a fine powder.
Henk
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:59 AM UTC
Thanks Shain, that clears up another mystery.. I think I'll stick with baking powder, it works well and has not not yellowed for me yet.

Cheers
Henk
Mech-Maniac
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 12:16 PM UTC

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Thanks Shain, that clears up another mystery.. I think I'll stick with baking powder, it works well and has not not yellowed for me yet.

Cheers
Henk




agreed, I am often hearing that baking soda/powder yellows, but I too have not had that experience.
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