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Fruil tracks for Hummel and Marder III M?
Norseman
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 05:18 PM UTC
I got a Dragon sd.kfz 165 Hummel Early and a Tamyia Marder III M.

Does anybody know i Fruil delivers tracks for theese two kits? I can't find it on the FruilModel website.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 06:41 PM UTC
Hi. have you tried Mol Plasticnodelbouw at the top of the page?
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They have the Hummel tracks, and hetzer early and late ..... are these the same for the marder?
Check them out anyway. Free delivery in Europe with orders over €40. Ive bought from them several times. Very efficient and 5 day delivery.

You could also try the toy soldier in Stockholm. Dont have the link here, but its something like "www. the toysoldier.nu". They are also a web based site. Google it if this doesn´t work.
Good hunting!
Norseman
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 07:06 PM UTC
Hm.... I might be blind, but I can't find tracks for the Hummel. What is the fruil product number.
rjray
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:31 PM UTC
The Marder III will not have the same track as a Hetzer. The Hetzer vehicles had different track than the other 38t derivatives.

Chesapeake Model Designs (http://www.chesapeakemodels.com/) carries Fruil track in the U.S. For the Marder, you will want 38t track (ATL-13), while for the Hummel it depends on the time period. It would have been Pz IV track, but the patterns varied over the duration of the war. You should find out what specific track pattern was in use.

The CMD site does have scanned images of the various Fruild track links. You could try to match the track you have in the Hummel kit against the Pz IV variants there.
Norseman
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:38 PM UTC
Thanks, Randy.

I guess I'll just have to compare this images to the tracks in the kit.

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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2005 - 11:33 PM UTC
Norseman,

going by the Jadar-site:

Hummel:

Atl-04 (Pz III-IV as used 1941-1944), hollow guide-horn.
Atl-05 would be the 1942-1945 version of the tracks, with the solid guide-horn.

panzer_fan
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 05:45 AM UTC
Norseman, for Marder III M you'll have to use ATL-13. For Friul, like Randy said, it is a Panzer IV but you'll have to decide which period was that used. Friul has about 5 or 6 variants for Panzer III/IV. Do some research on http://www.achtungpanzer.com. They have a lot of stuff to read. Good luck!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:32 AM UTC
Norseman
The Tamiya idles are not wide enough for the Friulmodel tracks You will have to get some AM idlers or widen the Tamiya idlers The Friul 38 t tracks do come with replacement tracks
rjray
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 02:41 PM UTC

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The Tamiya idles are not wide enough for the Friulmodel tracks You will have to get some AM idlers or widen the Tamiya idlers The Friul 38 t tracks do come with replacement tracks



Did you mean replacement idlers?
generalzod
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:23 PM UTC
Randy
I meant they come with replacement sprockets The idlers still need either replaced or modified as the kit idlers aren't wide enough for the Friulmodel tracks
rjray
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 09:35 PM UTC
Got it. I thought about that, after I replied. I wonder if old Italeri idlers would work (or if they lack the level of detail you'd want on the Tamiya project).

Randy
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