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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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DML's SdKfz 250 Stummel
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 04:44 PM UTC
Unfortunately this model comes with the same interior as the standard 250 Neu model. No problem, I thought, I'll just use the ammo bin and rack from the 3 in 1 251D kit. Even with the bench seat, the small seat, and the large locker at the right rear removed, the tiny fighting compartment is extremely cramped. Also, the floor is not level as there is a raised step near the back which presents a problem when trying to fit the ammo bin - it blocks the door and leaves no space for crewmen!. Does anyone have any information on the interior, ie; how many of the original parts should I omit, and what new items need to be scrounged up?
leica
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 11:59 PM UTC
No photo exists of the interior of the SdKfz 250/8. It seems odd that DML made a kit of the version, considering how rare they were. - probably only less than 80 total in alt & neu versions between 1941 and 1945.

If you look at the KstN (same as US Army TO&E), it seems that there were only 2 SdKfz 250/8's in a Panzer Division 1944 .....and the high mount version like the DML kit used a bosch headlight, not the 1943 notek light.....

btw, did your kit include the transmission "Y" sprue?





Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:46 AM UTC
Do you mean the engine kit which is available separately? No, it was not included, which I find a bit disapointing from DML. The 250 has the locating lugs and holes to fit the corresponding lugs and holes on the engine bottom. This would seem to indicate that both kits were engineered and produced at about the same time. For a couple of dollars more they could have included one of the engine sprues. Instead, to complete the 250, you have to buy the separate engine kit, although you do get two complete engines, four mechanic figures, several tools and accessories,and the cold weather starter equipment.
Btw, if there are no existing photos of the interior of this vehicle, I could then use artistic and practical license to equip the interior as I think is logical? And thanks for the info on the Bosch light!

PS; on p.29 of Concord's 'The Battle of the Bulge' there is a pic of a captured 250/1 Alt being repaired by US MP's. There are two civilian style 'bullet' headlights which seem to have been hastily mounted, and beside the left one is the damaged mount for what appears to be a Notek light. So did the Alts have Noteks, and the Neu's have Bosche's?
leica
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 09:13 AM UTC
Hi,

All Alte's had the notek light. As far as I can tell from looking at photos, Neu's built in 1943 had the notek light, ones in 1944 - for sure those delievered to the panzer divisions in mid 1944 - had the bosch light. When substituting the notek for the bosch light you also remove to those two little lights on the corners of the fenders.



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