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Armor/AFV: Allied - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Brazilian M8 so far
generalzod
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 07:26 AM UTC
Here are some pics of the Tamiya M8 armored car I am doing It will have Brazilian markings for the Italian campaign I am attempting to muddy it up I used some Testors red putty thinned with liquid glue I am wondering if I didn't go a bit overboard on it
At first I just wanted to add a bit But then i think I got a bit crazy doing it Anyhoo any and all opinions welcomed :-)







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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:05 AM UTC
from what I can see, it looks good so far. I am confused what the putty is for? If it is for the mud, why dont you add the mud after it is painted?
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:09 AM UTC

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from what I can see, it looks good so far. I am confused what the putty is for? If it is for the mud, why dont you add the mud after it is painted?


Thanks Shain
The putty simulates the mud I put it on before the paint,because it'll stick better that way
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:24 AM UTC

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Thanks Shain
The putty simulates the mud I put it on before the paint,because it'll stick better that way



never thought about it like that...I'll have to try that tecnique of sticking it on the plastic rather than the paint
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:25 AM UTC
Hard to tell at this point Chad....but the contrast of the putty i bet helps when applying. alot of mud does get caught in the wheel wells though...and once the tires are on, you'll probably have just enough to do the job. Whats the background on the Brazillian forces during the war? My dad was stationed in Brazil during 44'. I'm very curious. I never did get that story from him before he died.

Carry on you wayward son...hehe
generalzod
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 09:21 AM UTC
Kevin
Armoredsprue sent me a book on Brazilian forces during W.W.2 They tried to remain nuetral,but ships were being sunk by axis forces The Brazilian Expediotionary Force (FEB) was created on August 9th,1943
On July 16th,1944 the first elements landed at Naples,Italy The Brazilian forces only fought in Italy
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:28 AM UTC
Chad:

That putty sure is ugly in the raw. I'll wait until it's painted before I judge its effectiveness.
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:38 AM UTC
From what I can see, it looks fine! As I don't know that technique, I'll have to wait for the painted version to have a better opinion! But, again, for me it looks O.K.!
Cheers and happy modeling!
Prato
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2005 - 11:19 AM UTC
Hi Chad!
I´m glad to see that you start gluing your project to our campaing...
Replying your private message here, yes! There was one M8 that had the VIVA BRASIL writen on the side, it was durring the take on the Montese city you can see it´s picture on page 16 of that book I´ve sent you...
To upload pics for the campaing: http://photos.kitmaker.net/showgallery.php/cat/14060
If you have any other question, please let me know, ok?
Cheers!
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 02:17 AM UTC
I don't use testors red putty because i had a problem with it melting plastic a couple of times...

I use either tamiya's or squadrons.. one of my fav mud techniques is to use tamiyas putty mix in some very fine grained dirt for texture and a dirt color paint... after mixing it well I apply it after painting... and since its already the base mud color.. less panting.. then use a wash and some dirt overspray to blend it in and give it some deffinition...




these pic's arent' the greatest but u can see the results.
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 09:38 PM UTC

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... one of my fav mud techniques is to use tamiyas putty mix in some very fine grained dirt for texture and a dirt color paint... after mixing it well I apply it after painting... and since its already the base mud color.. less panting.. then use a wash and some dirt overspray to blend it in and give it some deffinition...




I have also started using real dirt (I scrape up the moss that grows on the stone of our backyard, dry it and use the fine soil it's grown in) add it to Tamiya XF64 (I think it is- khaki or earth?) and add white glue. The resulting goo can then either be trowelled on or thinned and painted on with a brush. When dry it can be highlighted. Works great for muckying up wheel arches and things.
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2005 - 01:01 AM UTC
Sorry General, I forgot to ask - do you not find it more difficult doing the 'mud' before the painting? I think I would have real problems because I very rarely have a final goal in mind when I start a model.
I think if I added mud using your technique I would still end up slapping more on over the paint, or else kicking myself for having put mud on a vehicle that didn't need it.
I applaud your ability to think ahead!
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2005 - 10:48 AM UTC
Paulo
Thanks for the help Hopefully it will be done real soon
Dogload
This is only my second time applying mud The last time was after the model was painted I probably will apply some more to the lower hull after it is painted
I did sand down some of the putty where it was real thick
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2005 - 11:50 AM UTC
Ola Chad

well looks like you are onto a great start to a nice vehicle. Also the subject is quite original, You don`t see much Brazilian vehicles being built I wonder what the decals will be.
I hope you can still change this but try to add the mud with a stiff brush in a more stippling movement. It is the trick to get a sort of bumpy texture to it rather then smears and strokes.

Looking forward to your next progress

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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2005 - 11:55 AM UTC
Ola Robert
Thanks for the good words The decals are from www.decalcomaniacs.com They have all sorts of good decal sheets for 1/35 and 1/72 armor
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 04:24 AM UTC
Hi,

I'm also doing a M8 from FEB - Brazilian Expeditionary Force - in Italy during WWII for the campaign.

Just a small correction on the DECALCOMANIACS address its www.decalcomaniacs.net




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