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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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What color for IDF armor????
janwillem
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2005 - 01:02 AM UTC
Hi guy's,
I was woundering if anyone knows what color to use for IDF armor (1995/2000)
If someone could tell me the number paint I should use (Humbrol or Tamiya)

TIA
Jan-Willem
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2005 - 01:25 AM UTC
Try this site.
http://idfmodelling.free.fr/articles.html
Danial
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 02:03 PM UTC
hmm..i used a dark sand color followed by a lighter sand color..works well though...
18Bravo
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 02:28 PM UTC
Humbrol Khaki Drill (I believe it was #72 but it has been ten years) is perfect. Since it's not readily available for me, I now use Testor's SAC Bomber Tan cut with varying amounts of header white.

Bear in mind this model is ten years old, so may not be as accurate as you'll find today. It's weathered with nothing more than Cement Color, which is where I think pigments are coming from.
Here's another view:

The color looks a little off because of my lighting, but a couple of brothers who run a little Kosher shop called Milk and Honey tell me it looks good to them.

PS
If it looks like you can see underneath the retainer straps on the barrel, it's because it was scratchbuilt in 1990 (the kit actually took 11 years start to finish) from something like 96 separate pieces.
landshark2
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Posted: Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 10:22 AM UTC
I always thought Testors Model Master Armor Sand was perfect. NOTE: This is the enamel one. It has just the right tint of grey for the Isrealis. The acryllic Armor Sand looks way too light.
eerie
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Posted: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:55 PM UTC


This is my ZELDA, i used a coat ot Tamiya OD green 2 and top if off with Tamiya Sand.
It still look weird
eerie
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Posted: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:57 PM UTC


another side view
Kahuna
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Posted: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 10:37 PM UTC
According to "Kne Mida", the IPMS Israel magazine, there are two ways to paint modern IDF armor correctly. The correct color is RAL 7006 and the two ways to achieve this color are:

Option A: Testors model master paints
6 parts- FS 30277
3 parts- FS 30118
1 part- FS 36118

Option B: Humbrol paints
3 parts- #187
3 parts- #29
1 part- #125

Good luck

Ori
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 12:48 AM UTC
Thats a lot of paint. I never mastered mixing, I should try it one day, Maybe i ll make a merkava
Red4
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 01:00 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thats a lot of paint. I never mastered mixing, I should try it one day, Maybe i ll make a merkava



GIve it a try. Its really easy. In place of the word "parts", use the word "drops".
So Three parts now becomes three drops.etc...
You can use this with any size measurement, pint quart, gallon etc. Hope this helps. "Q"
Kahuna
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 05:45 AM UTC
It's really no such a problem…
You should remember that weather changes the color constantly so if the mixing is not 100% correct it's not so bad!
Recon
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 10:49 AM UTC
I use model master SAC bomber tan. It is a great color.
recon
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 10:57 AM UTC
I used model master's number 2138.....Israeli Armor Sand on my Merkava. It has a sort of grayish tint to the sand. We have a few members that are from Isreal who might be able to give an accurate rendering as they probably have actually seen these vehicles up close and personal...
blackeast19
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 05:12 PM UTC
Hi,

I read somewhere that it's possible to achieve the same color scheme by using Tamiya's:
1 part XF 59, desert yellow
1 part XF 60, Dark yellow
and lighten by some white. (the portion have to be experimented with)

As for measuring the parts, i actually bought a packet of plastic "stirrers" (for usage in office pantries, or parties). Therefore, 1 part of XF59 will be one spoon! as for adding thinners, simply use a dropper to measure how many spoons you need. The "stirrers" are smaller than normal spoon sizes, therefore, can reach into the small bottle paints. You can also re-use them by simply running through water or just wipe off the paints.

Cheers!
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