Does anyone have any good info/pics of an M113 medical track? I would like to build one used in OIF Which M113A2 kit would be better,Academy or Tamiya?
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M113 medic info needed
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 08:31 AM UTC
I would go for the academy M-113, Has a interior, engin, and goodies.
The tamiya M-113 is really old and not that up to date.
As for a medical M-113 try looking on primeportal (don't have the adres at the moment)
Hoop it helps a little
Jan-Willem
The tamiya M-113 is really old and not that up to date.
As for a medical M-113 try looking on primeportal (don't have the adres at the moment)
Hoop it helps a little
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I second Jan's suggestion. You also get the external fuel cells. Most of the Medic M113's that where in my active duty unit and now in my guard unit have the external fuel cells.
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got a few photo's
http://eagle1.american.edu/~cp9771a/military/
this one is german but is a good interior photo
http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/bw_mtw_m113_g2_a2_krkw-a.htm
http://eagle1.american.edu/~cp9771a/military/
this one is german but is a good interior photo
http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/bw_mtw_m113_g2_a2_krkw-a.htm
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 09:43 AM UTC
Here is one picture I found. I was also looking throught the operators manual for the M113A2. They just adda kit to the track and make it an ambulance. The kit contains equipment to accomidate 4 litters.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 09:51 AM UTC
Pete
Thanks for the pic Offhand do you know how the unit markings are like? I see this one is marked with an HQ unit Were they normally like that?
Thanks for the pic Offhand do you know how the unit markings are like? I see this one is marked with an HQ unit Were they normally like that?
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Ok, lets see if I can explain this as short as possible.
In the line units( infantry, armor, etc.) the Head Quarters company of the battalion would have the ambulance's. In a Forward Support Battalion, you would have one dedicated company (usually Charlie Company) as the medical company. They would have the ambulances. For example, mu unit is a Forward. The bumper number would look like this:
On the right side: 36 (a black square) 949FSB
On the left side: C track #
In the line units( infantry, armor, etc.) the Head Quarters company of the battalion would have the ambulance's. In a Forward Support Battalion, you would have one dedicated company (usually Charlie Company) as the medical company. They would have the ambulances. For example, mu unit is a Forward. The bumper number would look like this:
On the right side: 36 (a black square) 949FSB
On the left side: C track #
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:06 AM UTC
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Thanks for the help Other than being able to identify modern armor I don't know much about them I am building this as a tribute to TurretToad13 he's a DSB member over in Iraq now It's part of a DSB build (++)
Thanks for the help Other than being able to identify modern armor I don't know much about them I am building this as a tribute to TurretToad13 he's a DSB member over in Iraq now It's part of a DSB build (++)
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:09 AM UTC
Here are pics of one I did. It is an M113A3 of 2ID, 302FSB, C14, Charlie Med in Korea. The ambulance M113 is a standard M113 with a chain and hook (inner )and bar and hook (hull side) setup that holds the litters. You can see them in mine. I used the Academy M113A2 kit for mine, easily the best M113 kit on the market.
M113A3 Ambulance
M113A3 Ambulance
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:17 AM UTC
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Great looking med track What crosses did you use?
Great looking med track What crosses did you use?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:21 AM UTC
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Gino
Great looking med track What crosses did you use?
Took them from the Academy M997 HMMWV Ambulance. I have since printed some off (for another project , UH-60A MedEvac helo) on white decal paper using my home computer and printer. Send me an email, I may be able to help you out.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:59 AM UTC
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Thanks for the pic Offhand do you know how the unit markings are like? I see this one is marked with an HQ unit Were they normally like that?
It is real easy to decypher US Army bumper markings for divisions. From left as looking at the vehicle, the first number is the division followed by a capital I for Infantry, black triangle for armor (only one of those left) or CAV for cavalry (only one of those).
i.e.
1I for 1st ID
2I, 3I, 4I for the other infantry divisions
1▲ for 1st Armor Division
1CAV for 1st Cavalry Division
The light infantry divisions get a little special:
10MTN for 10th Mountain
82ABN for the 82nd Airborne
101ABN for the 101st Airborne
The next series of numbers is for the battalion and regiment (if the unit is a combat arms formation).
1-77 would be 1st Battalion 77th Infantry Regiment
3▲32 or sometimes 3-32▲ for 3rd Battalion 32nd Armor (some do it either way, but would be constant throughout a battalion)
As Pete says, the ambulance would be part of the HQ company (called Headquarters and Headquarters Company or HHC). Those numbers on the right would be HQ-## or HHC-## depending on the SOP of the unit. I've seen it both ways. When I was an HHC commander, a bumper number "HQ-##" denoted a staff vehicle belonging to one of the primary staff sections (S1, S2, S3, S4 or the Bn Cdr or Bn XO or sergeant majot). HHC-## denoted a company support vehicle. These included the medics, support platoon (fuel & ammo), cooks, maintenance, commo platoon, etc.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:04 AM UTC
Rob
Thanks for the info
Gino
I thank you as well I was thinking of using the Archer dry transfers I'll get an e-mail out to you tonight Thanks again
Thanks for the info
Gino
I thank you as well I was thinking of using the Archer dry transfers I'll get an e-mail out to you tonight Thanks again
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From http://www.defenselink.mil :
This one is assigned to 7thCav., 2ndBCT, 1st Cav Division in Iraq. A bigger hi-res picture is available on the site :
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Nov2004/041112-A-1067B-006.jpg
HTH
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This one is assigned to 7thCav., 2ndBCT, 1st Cav Division in Iraq. A bigger hi-res picture is available on the site :
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Nov2004/041112-A-1067B-006.jpg
HTH
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:51 PM UTC
Just to add more to mine and Robs expanation:
Don't ask me where or how they came up with this, but since we changed from 49th Armored Div to the 36th INF DIV, we started to use a "black square" instead of the "I" for infantry.
Don't ask me where or how they came up with this, but since we changed from 49th Armored Div to the 36th INF DIV, we started to use a "black square" instead of the "I" for infantry.
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i will try to find a pic of the m577 version. i know i am giving my age up, but we had one when i was in germany in the early 70's
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 05:51 PM UTC
M577 Ambulances are still used as well. Things haven't changed that much. Pretty much the same set-up, holds 6 as opposed to 4 stretchers.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 06:48 PM UTC
OIF M577 medical track (from my own gallery )
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 02:38 AM UTC
Chad:
I have a few photos of 3rd ID tracks, including M577, from OIF1. I will try and find the good ones that show some markings and send to you. At least you can see how the stowage looked on them. It may be a few days since I will be leaving for a trip today.
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I have a few photos of 3rd ID tracks, including M577, from OIF1. I will try and find the good ones that show some markings and send to you. At least you can see how the stowage looked on them. It may be a few days since I will be leaving for a trip today.
Bob
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Bob
Thanks for the help
Thanks for the help
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 03:23 AM UTC
Chad, I tried to send some photos to your listed email but they came back as undeliverable. Can you confirm your email address?
Bob
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Chad, I tried to send some photos to your listed email but they came back as undeliverable. Can you confirm your email address?
Bob
Bob
It's [email protected] I'll look in my account to make sure that my e-mail addy is correct Thanks again
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 11:03 AM UTC
Sent an email about the M113 Ambulance red cross markings. Let me know if you got it.
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 11:08 AM UTC
Gino
Got them Thanks for sending them How or what program do I need to open them? So far no luck Acrobat Reader/IE and Windows won't open them
Got them Thanks for sending them How or what program do I need to open them? So far no luck Acrobat Reader/IE and Windows won't open them
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 04:27 PM UTC
Chad:
I have those photos at work. I'll send them on Tues. If I forget be sure to remind me.
Bob
I have those photos at work. I'll send them on Tues. If I forget be sure to remind me.
Bob