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Painting bunker help!
Silantra
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:57 PM UTC
Hi all,
i just got the Custom Dioramics CD7002 Flak bunker. This is my first attempt to paint the bunker wall so i wish somebody could help. What is the suitable color for the bunker? i just hope to get this right. Thanks

here is the photo taken from greatmodels


thanks
slodder
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 02:04 PM UTC
It's poured concrete so a base of light gray is a start. I would then layer a tan wash as an overall filter to get the light brown overtone. I would add a few dilute dark brown washes on it after that.

Go check out an old washed out dirty parking garage that was made with concrete.
Silantra
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 02:25 PM UTC

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It's poured concrete so a base of light gray is a start. I would then layer a tan wash as an overall filter to get the light brown overtone. I would add a few dilute dark brown washes on it after that.

Go check out an old washed out dirty parking garage that was made with concrete.



Wow Scott..that was fast and i thank you for that!

the truth is after i open the box i was so eager to get it done and i wash it then the next day i give the base preshade of humbroll matt black.

so i will give the base the first coat of dark grey.

thanks scott
MiamiJHawk
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 01:04 AM UTC
Silantra:

I would also like to express my view on painting a bunker such as this. An opinion you understand; not a "you must do this" kind of thing. "Slodder" made a good suggestions as to where to start.

I'd like for you to think about the effect of light and shadow, what sunlight would do to the various surfaces of the bunker. Those in the deep recesses would be darker in tone because of shadows, than the surfaces that were hit by sunlight. I think this kind of thinking is a good part of creating dios. I like to take my time and give a lot of thought to what I'm going to do; to think it thru and determine what best colors and washes and lighter and darker shades will best give this project the "illusion of reality". This isn't easy of course, but it is a lot of fun. I don't hear the effects of sunlight and shadow mentioned in the dio section of the Big A very often, but feel it is a important part of the process. Good luck,
MrMox
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 01:24 AM UTC
As far as I know, most german bunkers in service were painted and/or camoflaged to conceal there precense. remember, a light gray concrete structure on a yellew/green background shows very clearly on a airial photo!

We have a number of bunkers where i live, an all show traces of dunkelgelb, green and brown paint.

Theres some photos in my gallery - including a restored bunker.


Parks20
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 04:07 AM UTC
You can also check out Polly Scale's "Old Concrete" It looks just like, well, old concrete. You can shade, weather and camo from there. Good luck.
Florre
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 04:19 AM UTC
I have an article on some german bunkers in Antwerp. These were part of the command post for the LXXXIX corps, one of the corpses supposed to defend the belgian and dutch border. There are some nice present-day pics, and as far as I can tell these bunkers originally had a tan-like colour, so slodder's suggestion seems to be ok. The elements turned these bunkers dark-grey nowadays, and lichens made some of them really green. Of course, that's now, 60 years afterwards. During war this probably didn't happen I suppose.

These bunkers didn't have camo-painting. Of course these are inland commandbunkers, not frontline. But I saw some bunkers on the belgian coast, and I don't think they had camo-painting either. I believe they rather camouflaged it with netting then painting it. But in danmark they did, so I suppose it just depends on circumstances, and camouflaging happened a bit randomly.
KellyZak
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 04:27 AM UTC
For the little bunker I made, I painted it with Delta Creamcoat Quaker Grey craft paint, then I just added a straight black artist oil wash. Drybrushed with a sandstone color from the same comany, then drybrushed some light tans and browns, added some netting. Posiblities are endless!
Silantra
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:48 PM UTC
Thank you to the fine gentlemen who answer my question with some good explanation. I give a serious and deep thought about it and will give a try. I will post some progress photos as i went along.
thanks once again guys!!
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