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Applying pastels wet?
Martinnnn
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Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 09:03 PM UTC
Hi all,

Got a question. After I've been working for the first time with pastels on my M88 (see on display) I want to try some new things with this wonderfull stuff.

On the M88, I just applied it dry with a brush.
Now I've also heard you can also apply it wet, so it looks like mud etc.

I've got myself some nice muddy-look-coloured pastel but I don't know what to use to apply it wet.....water? white spirit? water + white glue?

So.....what to use to apply pastels wet?

Thanks,
Martin
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Tekirdag, Turkey / Türkçe
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 09:42 PM UTC
Hi Martin,
You can use all the diluants you've listed here.
I use white spirit because it dries very fast. Water works slowly, you can imagine.
Water+white glue+pastel dust+fine sand is a good mixture for making mud.
Cheers
sonnyboy
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 11:17 PM UTC
Eh i never use white terpentine! It leaves marks on your weathering! As Wampum mentioned mix it water and maybe a little amount of white glue! And make some with water and some with out water! Eh i used that on my achilles, if you can remember that one!
Martinnnn
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 11:38 PM UTC
I do

Thanks for the replies guys!

Martin
slodder
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 11:39 PM UTC
I use water for my pastel thinner. I mix it to match the affect I'm looking for - paste like for mud, thin and watery for oily looking spots.
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 04:57 PM UTC
I've dipped the pastel stick in water and dabbed it onto the surface. While it's still wet dab again with a different color. The edges of the different colors will blend together. When it dries, take a soft dry brush and gently scrub the colors. This will further blend and mute the colors. This works especially well on rusty, textured mufflers and exhausts. You can easily repeat, add-to, or remove the effect until it looks right.
warthog
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Posted: Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 08:45 PM UTC
Hi Martinn,

I usually apply wet pastel for weathering (inlcluding mud). I mix it with isopropyl alcohol. Once dry, I just brush off the excess. If I want more adhesion ( even if I touch the kit , the pastel chalk would not fall-off or rubbed-ff), I mix pastel, alcohol and tamiya buff (very very small amount) and then brush it to the surface. Once dry I also brush off the excess...

I think I mentioned it here Academy Tiger I early

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