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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Tiger finished!
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 05:40 AM UTC
Ok......I now declare my Tiger I early finished....after all those years!

For those who missed the previous thread. This is my Tiger, after an extreme makeover......

I bought the kit before I ever heard of weathering....or an airbrush! Still I wanted a camouflage scheme...well I don't think I have to say anything about it. Sometimes an image tells more than 1000 words eh? :-)



Now first I didn't really wanted to try German camouflage schemes with my AB because I was affraid I would ruin the model. Till I saw my Tiger again, hidden somewhere in a box. Together with some other models I stripped the Tiger from it's paint, followed by some rebuilding and a primer coat.

An excellent test and practice model not? Still I don't like to ruin a model so I tested my free-hand camouflage skills for the first time and I practiced a bit with my weathering techniques, to get myself a bit prepared for upcoming German armour projects! (like my 251/22)

These are the results....painted in Tamiya acrylics, weathered with oils, Model Masters enamels and Tamiya acrylics + some pastels. Decals are from the spare box and the turret number were hand painted (like it was in real......not too clean etc)

Hope you like it!

Tiger I (early) - s.Pz.Abt. 502 - Russia, late summer 1943





















Oh, the other models I'm "reworking" are my T-34/76 and Cromwell. The T-34 was half painted, the Cromwell was already "finished" but will be repainted. The first model in this serie I done was the M4A1 76(w) Jessica which was half built. All old kits I'm gonna finish or re-finish after all

Next: Cromwell

Cheers,
Martin
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 05:47 AM UTC
Wow, grat job. You would never know it's the same model.
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 05:49 AM UTC
Great Job Martin, I like the "dust " look better then the "mud" look , it gives some subtlety to the the nicks and scrapes on the paint, giving it a very believable look. I did like your original attempt at camo (although if your like me I hate brush strokes) it did have possibilties.
Your overall look is very realistic looking .
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:08 AM UTC
Nice tiger,amazing how a bit of TLC can make it look so good.did you use Tamiya buff for the dusty look?
cheers karl
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:15 AM UTC
I liked the first version too. The second version turned out great.
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:24 AM UTC
Excellent of applying acquired skills... the difference between the two, like Mark Twain said in another context, is 'like the difference between light and lightning'. Well done, and thanks for sharing.
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:44 AM UTC

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Nice tiger,amazing how a bit of TLC can make it look so good.did you use Tamiya buff for the dusty look?
cheers karl


TLC

What does that mean?

I used indeed buff

Thanks for the comments all!
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:48 AM UTC
martin i know you have a girlfriend,and give her lots of TLC ,tender loving care. :-) :-) .now you know what TLC means.
cheers karl
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:00 AM UTC
yes,with some TLC for your girlfriend, can get you the same amazing results as with your tiger.infact it got me a tiger ,the new dragon initial production this must be love
Hohenstaufen
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:04 AM UTC
Can hardly believe this is the same tank! Second version really looks good, but I have to say that it would have been interesting to see how the original would have looked well weathered. Did you go over the old paint, or remove it? If the latter, how? This project reminds me that I have boxes full of my earlier efforts in the loft - they're not fit to be seen, but I can't quite bring myself to chuck them out; maybe if we move! Many years ago I made my first Tamiya Tiger (yep the grotty old motorised one when it was new!), the instructions suggested using cotton wool held on by wallpaper paste as a mask to do the camouflage. Guess what happened? LOL
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 08:51 AM UTC

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martin i know you have a girlfriend,and give her lots of TLC ,tender loving care. .now you know what TLC means.
cheers karl


lol well I don't give my models the same kind of care I give my models but I understand your point


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yes,with some TLC for your girlfriend, can get you the same amazing results as with your tiger.infact it got me a tiger ,the new dragon initial production this must be love


Don't worry about the results I have with my girlfriend :-) I love her!


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Can hardly believe this is the same tank! Second version really looks good, but I have to say that it would have been interesting to see how the original would have looked well weathered. Did you go over the old paint, or remove it? If the latter, how? This project reminds me that I have boxes full of my earlier efforts in the loft - they're not fit to be seen, but I can't quite bring myself to chuck them out; maybe if we move! Many years ago I made my first Tamiya Tiger (yep the grotty old motorised one when it was new!), the instructions suggested using cotton wool held on by wallpaper paste as a mask to do the camouflage. Guess what happened? LOL


The original tank could have been pretty cool but I shouldn't have applied the camouflage because it's hard edge and that isn't correct

I removed the paint....it was handpainted in humbrol and now sprayed with tamiya acrylics....so that reason 1 why I had to remove the paint Also it just paints better on a flat base. Handpainting leaves some "levels" in your paint. (it's thick, sprayed paint isn't)

Glad you all like it
043
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 09:10 AM UTC
Hi Martin great re-painting/brushing only one thing to say the hammer on front top deck looks a bit curved or is it just the picture look ? This is what i did with my old models to several years ago and they were sold after setting in store for about 150,00 euro's each so they support me after buying my airbrush and compressor.
Greetz eric
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 09:42 AM UTC
Martin, very very nice redo. I love the new camo onher. Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 10:02 AM UTC
martin, iam a little disapointed in you... not long ago you told me you had troubles with your camo, but judging the camo on that tiger, your a liar :-)

congrats on hte camo and weathering, it looks superb!

Frank
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:17 AM UTC
Great job on the Tiger-version 2.0- Maybe the other TLC(tv station) could do an "extreme makeover" on it. What do you think?
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 03:36 PM UTC
very nice paintjob and weathering. i like the before and after pictures..though both camo scheme are intersting. the final cut is the best. one question..did you took apart the model as to what extent and painted it? or just as it was? when i'm doing a 'rework' the least i can do is take out the MGs and tracks..and sometimes wheels. thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 03:43 PM UTC
That's a cool, dusty Tiger you got there. I love it.

Angela
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:16 PM UTC

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Hi Martin great re-painting/brushing only one thing to say the hammer on front top deck looks a bit curved or is it just the picture look ?


No you're right about that. A mistake I made when I built it, can't do much about that now.


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martin, iam a little disapointed in you... not long ago you told me you had troubles with your camo, but judging the camo on that tiger, your a liar

congrats on hte camo and weathering, it looks superb!

Frank


Lol yeah true....well I did have trouble....but also I gotta learn things like this once.....it just turned out ok on the Tiger :-)


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very nice paintjob and weathering. i like the before and after pictures..though both camo scheme are intersting. the final cut is the best. one question..did you took apart the model as to what extent and painted it? or just as it was? when i'm doing a 'rework' the least i can do is take out the MGs and tracks..and sometimes wheels. thanks for sharing.


Hey,

Not sure if I understand your question correctly but if you mean if I removed parts like the wheels etc to make things easier: no....wasn't possible, everything was glued already. I did remove the tracks because I had to replace them

Thanks for the replies!

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:52 PM UTC
Awesome Job Martin...How do you keep putting these models out so fast..i swear...i only looked away for a second ..and there you go again...LOLOL
Great Job
Mary (++)
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:55 PM UTC

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Awesome Job Martin...How do you keep putting these models out so fast..i swear...i only looked away for a second ..and there you go again...LOLOL
Great Job
Mary (++)


This time I only had to paint the model...guess that made the difference

Also a problem is I really can't work on my homework for more than about 2 - 3 hours a day so I most of the time I get to work a bit on my models as well (sometimes that is not very good for school lol)

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:37 PM UTC
My curiosity is roused but for some reason the pictures don't appear!
Mind you, I'm at work, so maybe it's something to do with all the filters and blocks they have on the net here...
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:38 PM UTC

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My curiosity is roused but for some reason the pictures don't appear!
Mind you, I'm at work, so maybe it's something to do with all the filters and blocks they have on the net here...


Euh well you can go to my website.....same pics there. Just click my banner and enjoy

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:47 PM UTC

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My curiosity is roused but for some reason the pictures don't appear!
Mind you, I'm at work, so maybe it's something to do with all the filters and blocks they have on the net here...


Euh well you can go to my website.....same pics there. Just click my banner and enjoy

Martin


Aha! Thanks Martin- that is nice brushwork!
The ridiculous thing is that having viewed your website the photos now show up in this thread... hmm, there are so many restrictions placed upon web access from here- they have a block on sites that include 'web-hosting' in the address, and these have to be okayed before they can be viewed. Bloody hell, man!
Anyway, I also think that it would be interesting to have seen how the original paintwork looked with weathering, but the final result is splendid!
MC
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Posted: Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:50 PM UTC
Awesome work Martin. The dust looks, far far better than the mud.
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